Component Input HD DVRs Are Here

It has been lamented by many over the past few years that there are no HD DVRs available which can record from external HD inputs. Most models, such as cable and satellite DVRs, and even HD TiVo, record the digital source directly. But this means, for example, that you can’t use TiVo with the current HD satellite services, and you can’t have an HD TiVo in Canada as they don’t use CableCARD. The primary reason for the lack of DVRs that can record from component input has been economics. Encoding 1080i HD video on the fly is like drinking from a fire hose compared to 480i SD video’s garden hose, with 6.75 times the pixels per frame. That jump in volume requires much more powerful hardware. That hardware has been available for a number of years, but it has been limited to professional level products, which were priced out of range for consumer products.

Well, the nice thing about technology is that it doesn’t rest. Each new generation of chips has been more capable and less expensive, and now we’re seeing HD-capable consumer products starting to appear. They’re still at the high-end of the consumer products, but it is inevitable that pricing will come down and we’ll see these capabilities in more products. I covered the Slingbox PRO-HD the other day. It isn’t a DVR, but it does accept HD component input at resolutions up to 1080i and it can encode and stream the signal in the same resolutions. Unlike previous generation products like the Slingbox PRO and Slingbox SOLO, which accept 1080i input but down-sample it to 640×480 for encoding, the Slingbox PRO-HD can stream up to 1080i. The same capabilities could just as easily be used to save the encoded video to media as to stream it – a DVR. The Slingbox PRO-HD will carry an MSRP of $399.99 when it ships in the third quarter.

But that’s not all, Gefen is releasing an HD DVR which can record from not only component input, but also HDMI. Now, details are thin, but I’d bet this unit has the same limitation as existing HDMI capture devices, namely that it can’t record content protected with HDCP. So don’t get too excited. Still, the unit can record HD video in resolutions of up to 1080i to SD cards (SecureDigital) or an internal 80GB hard drive. It is a fairly basic recorder, nothing fancy, and 80GB isn’t a lot of storage. The price? $999.00. Yeah, you’re not going to be picking one of these up instead of a TiVo HD, or even a Series3. But, unlike the TiVos, it could be used with HD cable or satellite STBs.

This isn’t what most people are looking for in a DVR – no scheduled recordings, let alone Season Passes – but the fact that the hardware exists is a good predictor for the future. Give it another year or two and another generation or two of hardware development, and the costs will come down. This is the kind of capability we might see in a future HD TiVo for applications where direct access to the digital stream is unavailable – like satellite or digital cable in other countries (Canada).

However, it is unlikely that you would want to use this kind of product when you have the direct option – it isn’t going to replace CableCARD. Why? Quality. As users of digital DVRs are probably already personally aware, SD digital cable channels look much better on a digital DVR than when recorded on an older STB-DVR pairing, like the TiVo Series2. And that is because the digital model records the native digital source as-is, while recording the same channel from a STB requires encoding it in real time in the DVR. Digital signals are normally encoded at the head end using powerful, multi-pass encoding systems which produce very high quality encodes with lower bandwidth requirements. When you can record that signal as-is, watching a recording is identical to watch live.

But when you use an STB that signal is received by the STB, decoded for output, output as an analog component video signal, then captured by the DVR and encoded. And the local encoding has to be done as a single-pass, real-time encoding, since the DVR doesn’t have the luxury of making multiple passes over the video to optimize the encoding. This produces a lower-quality encoding with higher bandwidth requirements. That’s just the nature of the beast.

Not to mention that it mens going back to all the mess we’ve gotten away from – connecting STBs to the DVR, using IR blasters, paying the box fees for the STB, etc. And doing dual-tuners would be complicated as you’d need two STBs and two IR blasters and would have to avoid cross-talk. That’s one of the main reasons the TiVo Series2DT only supports one STB. I think most users would rather deal with CableCARD than go back to that mess and accept lower quality. But when you don’t have another option, it doesn’t look so bad. The technological-economic barriers to a consumer level component DVR are falling.

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  • Charles Blaquière

    “I think most users would rather deal with CableCARD than go back to that mess and accept lower quality. But when you don’t have another option, it doesn’t look so bad.”

    Exactly. Here in Toronto, I’m living under the gulag-like conditions offered by Rogers Cable’s SA 8300HD DVR running SARA software, possibly the most primitive DVR in North America — at least it feels that way. As longtime TiVo lovers, my husband and I felt great sadness when the allure of HD on a 46″ set made SD unwatchable, and we regretfully had to abandon our faithful old Series 1 for the Rogers HD DVR.

    Since then, our lives have been filled with single-day, single-initial so-called “Search” that forces us to scroll through 267 instances of “News” on our way to “Nightline”; a dog’s breakfast-like Scheduled Recordings list which intermixes actual to-do items and orphaned no-record entries; and generally, more quirks and flaws than you could shake a stick at. OTA recording with TiVoHD is not an option due to Tribune Media’s current lack of guide data for Canadian HD channels, no specialty channels, and occasional signal errors.

    As a result, I keep waiting for the day when TiVo finally releases an HD model with component inputs, at which point the Rogers DVR will immediately get the boot and we’ll be back in the powerful, happy land of TiVo. Unfortunately, it seems that we’ll have to be patient for a long, long while. After CableCard, TiVo’s next step is DVB-T for Australia and most of the world — a step in the right (CableCard-less) direction, but your article clearly shows that models able to record from an external cable/satellite box will be a long time coming.

    Let’s just pray that costs come down faster than expected.

  • johnny0

    This would make me extremely happy:

    Starchoice 505 ==component== Hauppauge HD dongle ==USB== Mac + EyeTV == WiFi== AppleTV, iPhone…

    (Sorry for the crappy formatting — the site ate all my greater thans / less thans…)