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><channel><title>Gizmo Lovers Blog &#187; Boxee Box</title> <atom:link href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/tag/boxee-box/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com</link> <description>TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about...</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2012 09:16:12 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4</generator> <item><title>SlingPlayer for Connected Devices Launches, Hits Boxee First</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/22/slingplayer-for-connected-devices-launches-hits-boxee-first/</link> <comments>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/22/slingplayer-for-connected-devices-launches-hits-boxee-first/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:34:19 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Google TV]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Place Shifting]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Sling Media]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Boxee Box]]></category> <category><![CDATA[d-link]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Logitech]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Revue]]></category> <category><![CDATA[slingplayer]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SlingPlayer for Connected Devices]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=8709</guid> <description><![CDATA[Sling Media seems to have woken up from their nap recently as they&#8217;ve started releasing new and updated products. Recently we&#8217;ve have SlingPlayer for Android Tablets, SlingPlayer for Facebook, and Chrome support added to watch.slingbox.com. Things really seemed to slow &#8230; <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/22/slingplayer-for-connected-devices-launches-hits-boxee-first/">Continue reading <span
class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.slingbox.com/go/spcd" class="broken_link"><img
src="http://www.gizmolovers.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Sling-Media-Logo-300x150.png?9d7bd4" alt="Sling Media Logo" title="Sling Media Logo" width="300" height="150" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4318" /></a> Sling Media seems to have woken up from their nap recently as they&#8217;ve started releasing new and updated products.  Recently we&#8217;ve have <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/21/slingplayer-for-android-tablets-available/">SlingPlayer for Android Tablets</a>, <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/18/slingplayer-for-facebook-now-available/">SlingPlayer for Facebook</a>, and <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/18/slingplayer-for-facebook-now-available/">Chrome support added</a> to <a
href="http://watch.slingbox.com/" class="broken_link">watch.slingbox.com</a>.</p><p>Things really seemed to slow down with Sling a couple of years ago.  There hasn&#8217;t been a new Slingbox since the PRO-HD launched in late 2008.  There was a flurry of mobile client development in 2008 and early 2009, but after the iPhone &#038; iPad SlingPlayer released in May 2009 things really slowed down.  All of the service provider products introduced at CES 2012 seem to have fallen flat.  SlingPlayer Mobile for Android finally launched in June 2010 and versions for Windows Phone and an iPad optimized version shipped in November of that year.  The Windows Phone version snuck out pretty much unnoticed, though that probably has something to do with the market share of Windows Phone being negligible, to put it kindly.  There&#8217;s been some activity with Sling in India, and EchoStar launched a SlingLoaded Freesat DVR in the UK, but neither seems to have attracted much attention.</p><p>But now we have a flurry of new activity, and I hope it is a sign of what&#8217;s to come and not just another blip on the radar.  The latest is <a
href="http://www.slingbox.com/go/spcd" class="broken_link">SlingPlayer for Connected Devices</a>, which is something of a redemption for the disastrous SlingCatcher.  It can turn your Slingbox PRO-HD or SOLO (sorry, other models need not apply) into a &#8216;whole home&#8217; solution by allowing you to access content from the living room on a TV in the bedroom.  Or maybe the kids away at school can access the family DVR at home.  It is what the SlingCatcher was supposed to provide, and much more since it is now part of a STB which offers other services.</p><p>Right now &#8216;Connected Devices&#8217; means the <a
href="http://send.onenetworkdirect.net/z/334384/CD94465/" class="broken_link">D-Link Boxee Box</a> and&#8230; that&#8217;s it.  However, as <a
href="http://www.slingbox.com/go/spcd" class="broken_link">Sling says</a>:<cite>&#8220;More connected devices will be added soon. Watch this space for updates in the upcoming weeks.&#8221;</cite> We <a
href="http://www.zatznotfunny.com/2011-01/watch-slingbox-on-google-tv/">already know</a> that <a
href="http://www.google.com/tv/">Google TV</a> is a planned platform for SlingPlayer, hopefully soon.  Coming on top of the Google TV 2.0 update (still pending for the Revue, admittedly), it might be another reason to pick up a <a
href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-5375377-10606692?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.logitech.com%2Fen-us%2FsmartTV%2Frevue%2F7569&#038;cjsku=970-000001">Logitech Revue Google TV</a><img
src="http://www.tqlkg.com/image-5375377-10606692" width="1" height="1" border="0"/> box or <a
href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-5375377-10660227">bundle</a><img
src="http://www.ftjcfx.com/image-5375377-10660227" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt=""/>.  The Boxee Box is <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038JE07O/?tag=tiv-20">$174.95 at Amazon</a> while the <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040QE98O/?tag=tiv-20">Revue is only $99.99</a>.  Right now those are the only two &#8216;Connected Devices&#8217; Sling has discussed for SlingPlayer.</p><p>Of course, the question a lot of people are asking is &#8211; Will this come to Roku?  Roku is the 800 pound gorilla in the streaming STB market, and the new Roku 2 units are certainly more capable app platforms.  They also clearly have the highest market penetration, and <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/08/low-end-roku-lt-drops-price-point-under-50/">some of the lowest prices</a>.  I really have to think Sling would want to get SlingPlayer for Connected Devices on Roku, but we haven&#8217;t heard anything about it to date so don&#8217;t get your hopes up.</p><p>I wouldn&#8217;t bet on seeing it on AppleTV either, not unless/until Apple opens it up for 3rd party apps.  Everyone expected them to do that after updating it to be based on iOS, but it still hasn&#8217;t happened.  Maybe Sling can work with Apple to get the client on the box, like Netflix, but I&#8217;m not holding my breath.  As for other streaming boxes &#8211; Popbox, Western Digital, etc. &#8211; no idea.  None of the other devices really have much of a user base so it may not be worth the effort.</p><p>Sling&#8217;s released a video showing off SlingPlayer for Connected Devices on the Boxee Box:<br
/> <iframe
width="500" height="284" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/UNyTlWyi5cE?autohide=1" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p><p>I have to say I&#8217;m gratified to see this, and maybe even a bit vindicated.  Back in 2008 when I worked at Sling Media the SlingCatcher was two years late and still unreleased.  I argued that we should kill it and just not release it.  While the design was leading edge when it was announced, the market had changed a great deal in the interim.  The SlingCatcher&#8217;s inability to handle HD H.264 and limited WMV/VC-1 support, and general reliance on MPEG-2 for HD, was a major issue.  Also, the PC software&#8217;s requirement that content be playing on the desktop to stream, while innovative when announced, had been surpassed by software like PlayOn and the ability to stream content directly from disk.  I just felt that it was basically a two year old product at launch, and two year old consumer electronics products are no longer market leaders.</p><p>Instead I argued that Sling should take a different route.  Roku was already hot and I suggested making deals with Roku and other companies to embed SlingPlayer in existing products.  Put it on Roku, Media Center Extenders (which were more popular at the time), etc.  Write a version in Blu-ray Java and distribute it on disc.  That would turn any BD-Live Blu-ray deck into a SlingCatcher (I still think that&#8217;s a viable idea), and get it embedded into players when the vendor is willing.  Netflix later used the exact same approach &#8211; using disc-based player software for platforms like the PS3 until they could get an official client embedded in the firmware.  Speaking of the PS3, game consoles were another platform I argued Sling should pursue &#8211; and I still believe they should.</p><p>Of course, in the end I lost the argument, the SlingCatcher shipped and bombed, and I got fired for something else.  It is three years later, but it is still good to see SlingPlayer finally hitting other platforms.  I think place shifting companies like Sling Media and Monsoon Multimedia need to take a different approach.  Stop charging, or at least charging so much, for client software, and get the clients on as many platforms as possible.  Ideally, publish the APIs so 3rd parties can build in client support to their platforms, developers can create unique clients for niche platforms, etc.  My idea is to get the clients out there, as much as possible.</p><p>You want ubiquity.  Because once the clients are everywhere, people have a reason to buy your hardware to <i>feed</i> those clients.  And that&#8217;s where you make your money.  If the consumer already has devices with SlingPlayer functionality, it gives them more reason to buy a Slingbox.  Create a demand &#8211; the player &#8211; that only you can supply &#8211; with the box &#8211; and then sell the supply side.</p><p>Maybe this is the start.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/11/22/slingplayer-for-connected-devices-launches-hits-boxee-first/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>5</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Sellout.Woot &#8211; Boxee Box for Just $124.99</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/09/09/sellout-woot-boxee-box-for-just-124-99/</link> <comments>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/09/09/sellout-woot-boxee-box-for-just-124-99/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 07:10:24 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Broadband]]></category> <category><![CDATA[General Tech]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Boxee]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Boxee Box]]></category> <category><![CDATA[d-link]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Gifts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[sale]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Sellout.Woot]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=7888</guid> <description><![CDATA[Today&#8217;s Sellout.Woot deal is a refurbished Boxee Box High-Definition Media Player by D-Link for only $119.99 + $5 S&#038;H. The specifications are fairly impressive: Dimensions (LxWxH): 4.5&#8243; x 4.5&#8243; x 4.6&#8243; Language Support: English, French, German, Italian, Spanish Network Protocol &#8230; <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/09/09/sellout-woot-boxee-box-for-just-124-99/">Continue reading <span
class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-5375377-10860750?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsellout.woot.com%2Fsale%2Fboxee-box-high-definition-media-player-by-d-link&amp;cjsku=21143"><img
src="http://www.gizmolovers.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Boxee-Box-300x225.jpg?9d7bd4" alt="Boxee Box" title="Boxee Box" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-7889" /></a><img
src="http://www.ftjcfx.com/image-5375377-10860750" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt=""/> Today&#8217;s Sellout.Woot deal is a refurbished <a
href="http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-5375377-10860750?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsellout.woot.com%2Fsale%2Fboxee-box-high-definition-media-player-by-d-link&amp;cjsku=21143">Boxee Box High-Definition Media Player by D-Link</a> for only $119.99 + $5 S&#038;H.</p><p>The specifications are fairly impressive:</p><ul><li><b>Dimensions (LxWxH):</b> 4.5&#8243; x 4.5&#8243; x 4.6&#8243;</li><li><b>Language Support:</b> English, French, German, Italian, Spanish</li><li><b>Network Protocol Support:</b> IPV4, ARP, TCP, UDP, ICMP, DHCP Client, DNS Client, DDNS Client, HTTP Server, Samba Client, RTP/RTMP, VPN: PPTP, DLNA 1.5 (DMP)</li><li><b>Wireless:</b> 802.11n/g/b</li><li><b>Ports:</b> HDMI 1.3, 10/100 Fast Ethernet, 2x USB 2.0, Optical Audio (S/PDIF), Analog Audio (RCA L/R)</li><li><b>Memory Card Support:</b> SD, SDHC up to 32GB, MMC</li><li><b>Audio Formats:</b> MP3, WAV/PCM/LPCM, WMA, AIF/AIFF, AC3/AAC, OGG, FLAC, Dolby Digital/Dolby True HD</li><li><b>Video Formats:</b> Adobe Flash 10.1, FLV/On2 VP6 (FLV/FV4/M4V), H.264 AVC (TS/AVI/MKV/MOV/M2TS/MP4), VC-1 (TS/AVI/MKV/WMV), MPEG-1 (DAT/MPG/MPEG), MPEG-2 (MPG/MPEG/VOB/TS/TP/ISO/IFO), MPEG-4 (MP4/AVI/MOV), DivX 3/4/5/6 (AVI/MKV), Xvid (AVI/MKV), WMV9 (WMV/ASF/DVR-MS)</li><li><b>Image Formats:</b> JPEG, PNG, GIF, BMP, TIFF</li><li><b>Playlist Formats:</b> M3U, PLS, WPL</li><li><b>Subtitle Formats:</b> SRT, SUB, SSA, SMI, ASS</li><li><b>Supported Resolutions:</b> H.264: 1080p at 30 fps, 1080i at 60 fps; WMV9/VC-1: 1080p at 30 fps, 1080i at 60 fps; MPEG4: 1080p at 30 fps, 1080i at 60 fps; MPEG2: 1080p at 30 fps, 1080i at 60 fps</li><li><b>Two-Sided RF Remote:</b> with 4-way navigation and full QWERTY keypad</li></ul><p>The MSRP on this box is $229.99, <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038JE07O/?tag=tiv-20">Amazon sells them new for $179.99</a>, so this is a pretty good deal.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/09/09/sellout-woot-boxee-box-for-just-124-99/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>0</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Logitech Revue Google TV Box Pricing Drops to $99.99</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/08/01/logitech-revue-google-tv-box-pricing-drops-to-99-99/</link> <comments>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/08/01/logitech-revue-google-tv-box-pricing-drops-to-99-99/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:06:12 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Amazon]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Google TV]]></category> <category><![CDATA[HDTV]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Best Buy]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Boxee Box]]></category> <category><![CDATA[d-link]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Gifts]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Logitech]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Popbox]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Revue]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Roku]]></category><guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=4271</guid> <description><![CDATA[Initially launched last October at a $299.99 price point, later reduced to $249.99, and then further reduced to $199.99 this May, the Logitech Revue Google TV box hasn&#8217;t been what one could call a sales success. Logitech has suffered from &#8230; <a
href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/08/01/logitech-revue-google-tv-box-pricing-drops-to-99-99/">Continue reading <span
class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-5375377-10695801"><img
src="http://www.gizmolovers.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Logitech-Revue-300x157.jpg?9d7bd4" alt="Logitech Revue" title="Logitech Revue" width="300" height="157" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-4273" /></a> Initially launched last October at a $299.99 price point, later reduced to $249.99, and then further reduced to $199.99 this May, the <a
href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-5375377-10606692?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.logitech.com%2Fen-us%2FsmartTV%2Frevue%2F7569&#038;cjsku=970-000001">Logitech Revue</a> <a
href="http://www.google.com/tv/">Google TV</a> box hasn&#8217;t been what one could call a sales success.  Logitech has suffered from extensive returns from their distributors and resellers, taking a big hit to the bottom line in the process.  To help improve the sales prospects of the unit <a
href="http://www.logitech.com/en-us/172/8589">last week Logitech announced</a> that they&#8217;d be dropping the price again, to $99.99.  And today the new price went into effect.</p><p>You can now buy the Logitech Revue for $99.99 at <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040QE98O/?tag=tiv-20">Amazon</a>, <a
href="http://www.kqzyfj.com/click-5375377-10474050?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bestbuy.com%2Fsite%2FLogitech%2B-%2BRevue%2Bwith%2BGoogle%2BTV%2F1257136.p%3Fid%3D1218243226608%26skuId%3D1257136%26st%3Dlogitech%2520revue%26cp%3D1%26lp%3D1">Best Buy</a>, or <a
href="http://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-5375377-10606692?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.logitech.com%2Fen-us%2FsmartTV%2Frevue%2F7569&#038;cjsku=970-000001">direct from Logitech</a><img
src="http://www.tqlkg.com/image-5375377-10606692" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt=""/>.  At the original $299.99 price I thought it was way too expensive to recommend, or bother getting one myself.  But at the new $99.99 price I think it is a viable contender, and I just ordered one to play with.</p><p>Google TV is certainly rough around the edges today, but it has a lot of potential.  It is based on the Android operating system, but the first version, what is available today, is pretty limited.  You have some of the standards we&#8217;ve come to expect &#8211; like Netflix, Pandora, and Amazon &#8211; but compared to a unit like Roku it is a pretty limited selection.  Fortunately, that&#8217;s expected to change in a big way later this summer.  Google TV is getting an update to a new version based on Android 3.1 Honeycomb, the latest &#038; greatest version of Android, as used on tablets.  Along with this update the Android App Market will be hitting Google TV, and you&#8217;ll be able to download apps just as you can on your Android smartphone.  And 3rd party developers will be able to develop apps to do anything, just like the phones.  And all existing Google TV devices, including the newly affordable Revue, will get this update.  So it isn&#8217;t just what it can do now, it is what it will do in a few months that makes it a decent value at the new price.</p><p>I&#8217;d love to see Google TV integrated tightly with TiVo, as it is with Dish Network DVRs today.  The potential is certainly there, with TiVo&#8217;s network remote control functionality on the Series3 and later boxes.  I&#8217;m not a developer, so I don&#8217;t know if this is something the Google TV API would allow 3rd party developers to do, but I suspect not since it is more a core feature of the platform.</p><p>I think Google really stumbled out of the gate with Google TV, but they&#8217;re not stupid and they learn from their mistakes.  Everything<br
/> they&#8217;ve shown relating to Google TV 2.0 looks pretty impressive.  They&#8217;ve learned several lessons from the tepid response and harsh reviews of the first version, unfortunately Logitech took a real financial hit to help drive those lessons home.  I think Googleis learning that the physical world is a bit different than operating online, where you can launch an incomplete product and get away with it by calling it a &#8216;beta&#8217; and making it free.  People aren&#8217;t as happy with half-baked products when they have to pay real money for them, especially several times what competing products cost (such as Roku).  You really need to get it right the first time, then continue to improve it.  Not ship something functional but overly limited, then make it awesome in a later update.  First impressions are important.  Google is big enough to recover from a fumble, but it doesn&#8217;t serve them to get their partners, like Logitech, beat up in the market due to product shortcomings.</p><p>One odd quirk caused by the repricing, the optional <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0040QE97A/?tag=tiv-20">Mini Controller for the Revue</a> at $129.99 now costs more than the Revue with it&#8217;s included full size keyboard.  But then, it is optional and the keyboard that comes with the Revue is all you really need.  Not to mention the remote control apps available for Android or iOS devices.</p><p>It will also be interesting to see what happens with pricing on the <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0038JE07O/?tag=tiv-20">Boxee Box by D-Link</a>.  The MSRP is currently $229.99, and with the reduction on the Revue and the existing low pricing on Roku boxes, the main competition, it stands out as a high priced box.  The <a
href="http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004V95RK4/?tag=tiv-20">Popbox is $129.99</a>, which is a bit high but still close.  It really looks like $99.99 is the new price to match, or beat, in the media STB market, thanks mainly to Roku.</p><p>As a big fan of Android on my phone, and Google products in general, I&#8217;m looking forward to having my own Revue so I can play with Google TV.  For $300 I was curious but reserved, for $100 I&#8217;ll bite.</p><p>Initial announcement spotted last week in <a
href="http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/28/logitech-ceo-steps-down-after-money-losing-q1-revue-price-slash/">Engadget</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/08/01/logitech-revue-google-tv-box-pricing-drops-to-99-99/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>7</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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