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By: TiVo Developer Channel Courts Third Party Apps - Zatz Not Funny!

TiVo Developer Channel Courts Third Party Apps - Zatz Not Funny! — Sun, 03 Jun 2012 14:45:49 +0000

[...] of features like Xfinity On Demand and a solid stable of updated apps could shift the balance. And Megazone reports TiVo’s new SDK program is on track to launch “this fall” – driven by a full [...]

By: Foo

Foo — Fri, 25 May 2012 12:06:00 +0000

Heh, kind of sounds like the WMC extender approach with RDP. Makes sense to me, but puts more load on the server/gateway.

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Fri, 25 May 2012 06:35:00 +0000

Er, no actually, my bad for being confusing.

RVU = DLNA+RUI

RUI is specifically the Remote UI, RVU is DLNA with the addition of the RUI.

By: Fanfoot

Fanfoot — Fri, 25 May 2012 05:31:00 +0000

Oh god, is RUI different from RVU? Can’t we all just get along…

By: Boston TiVo Users Get Comcast XFINITY On Demand Monday! | Gizmo Lovers Blog

Boston TiVo Users Get Comcast XFINITY On Demand Monday! | Gizmo Lovers Blog — Fri, 25 May 2012 00:11:47 +0000

[...] Show because they wanted to keep the attention focused on their X1 product announcements.Thanks to Brennok for the tip.var [...]

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Fri, 25 May 2012 00:00:00 +0000

Ah – clearly Comcast knew and just didn’t want to distract from their focused X1 message at the show.

By: Brennok

Brennok — Thu, 24 May 2012 23:14:00 +0000

Well they announced today Boston is on Monday.

https://twitter.com/stevewymer/status/205764112926507012

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 24 May 2012 18:31:00 +0000

Remote User Interface. It is a standardized way for a media gateway to generate a UI to be displayed on thin client devices. Today most whole home systems rely on dedicated client STBs for the other rooms. Those that support access via 3rd party devices like gaming consoles and smart TVs usually have to go one of two routes:
1. Create a dedicated app for the platform and get it loaded on said platform. This allows them to use their customized UI.
2. Rely on a standards based approach like DLNA/DTCP-IP. But this leaves the UI up to the client device and how it handles DLNA content. This is usually a most less sophisticated UI.

RUI is a middle ground. The client has to support RUI, just as it has to support DLNA/DTCP-IP, but nothing special needs to be loaded on the client. If it supports RUI, when talking to an RUI-enabled server it uses the UI generated by that server. It is, in that way, similar to TiVo’s old Java-based Home Media Engine where the UI was generated on the server and just rendered on the STB.

The model stacks up with coax, then MoCA, then DLNA/DTCP-IP, and now growing use of RUI as a presentation layer.

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 24 May 2012 18:23:00 +0000

Yep – I posted about it last summer.

And the FCC rule is actually that the TA must support four streams *or* the same number of streams as the MSOs most capable operator provided STB. So if the MSO offers a six-tuner DVR – like the Arris Moxi, or the new Pace XG1, etc. – then they must offer TAs with six stream support as well.

To keep things simple Cisco and Motorola just updated the firmware to six streams across the board. It is much simpler than having a mix of 4 & 6 stream revisions.

By: Foo

Foo — Thu, 24 May 2012 11:47:00 +0000

What is RUI?

By: gabmasterjcc

gabmasterjcc — Thu, 24 May 2012 10:32:00 +0000

Are you sure about that? Originally Cisco only supported 2 (Moto always supported 4, from what I saw). I never saw anything that said they moved to 6. Only that Cisco moved to 4 a little before the time that Premiere Elite came out.

Edit: I did a little more looking. I did find some claims that the Cisco supports 6. There is nothing that says they are required to (FCC says only 4 are required). Oh well…

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:35:00 +0000

Yeah, I don’t see that happening. Though I did talk to SiliconDust at the show and they have some interesting stuff coming – like DLNA/DTCP-IP tuner sharing. So any DLNA/DTCP-IP client would be able to use one of their network tuners. And with their API someone could roll a DVR app that used it.

But even for SiliconDust the focus seems to be on QAM now, probably for the same reasons.

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:35:00 +0000

You’re quite welcome.

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:32:00 +0000

Comcast isn’t giving time frames yet, just that Boston is ‘next’. TiVo would’ve loved to give some specifics, but it isn’t in their control. They have to wait for Comcast to announce details, and Comcast’s big splash as this show is their new X1 product. I don’t think they wanted to talk about anything off message.

By: MegaZone

MegaZone — Thu, 24 May 2012 04:31:00 +0000

Nope, Tuning Adapters support 6. Both Motorola and Cisco released updated firmware long, long ago. Cisco did have a version that only supported four for a while, but any MSO still running that hasn’t updated in quite a while.

CableCARDs and TAs both limit the number of tuners to six per – of course you could have more tuners with multiple cards & TAs.

By: gcw07

gcw07 — Thu, 24 May 2012 03:53:00 +0000

From what the Ceton people have said, all the major cable companies tuning adapters are updated to software that supports up to 6. Some smaller cable companies might not have upgraded to the latest version, but any major ones already have.

By: gcw07

gcw07 — Thu, 24 May 2012 03:53:00 +0000

By: gcw07

gcw07 — Thu, 24 May 2012 03:53:00 +0000

By: gcw07

gcw07 — Thu, 24 May 2012 03:53:00 +0000

By: two460one

two460one — Wed, 23 May 2012 22:26:00 +0000

Megazone, great intel on TiVo — thanks very much!

By: dullgeek

dullgeek — Wed, 23 May 2012 11:48:00 +0000

Personally, I’d love to see TiVo support HDHomeRun as a tuner source. Then I could start with two tuners on some Premiere w/a gigantic HD, and add tuners as I need them. I doubt this will ever happen – TiVo doesn’t seem to be interested in interoperating with many other components. But it would solve the expensive ATSC tuner problem. Those who want more tuners can pay for them.

By: Jackmehoff

Jackmehoff — Wed, 23 May 2012 10:53:00 +0000

Figured with the show in Boston there would be some xfinity TiVo VOD talk. Very surprised there is no word on that front. Thought it was a natural time and place for such an announcement.

By: gabmasterjcc

gabmasterjcc — Wed, 23 May 2012 10:32:00 +0000

” But reading between the lines I think we can expect to see more tuners
in a future box as well – an XL6 if you will. There are chips available
now with six, or more, integrated QAM tuners. And an M-Card supports a
maximum of six streams.”
Maybe, maybe not. Tuning adapters only support 4.

By: gabmasterjcc

gabmasterjcc — Wed, 23 May 2012 10:32:00 +0000

By: gabmasterjcc

gabmasterjcc — Wed, 23 May 2012 10:32:00 +0000