Comments on: TiVo Stream and IP STB Coming To MSOs and Retail This Year http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/ TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about... Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: VideoNuze TiVo Cable Show Video Interview | Gizmo Lovers Bloghttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29402 VideoNuze TiVo Cable Show Video Interview | Gizmo Lovers Blog Mon, 18 Jun 2012 06:08:31 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29402 [...] saw this interview being shot during one of my visits to TiVo’s booth. They primarily discuss the TiVo Stream and the IP STB, as those were TiVo’s big announcements from the show. Jeff indicates the products will be [...] [...] saw this interview being shot during one of my visits to TiVo’s booth. They primarily discuss the TiVo Stream and the IP STB, as those were TiVo’s big announcements from the show. Jeff indicates the products will be [...]

]]> By: » More Information On The TiVo Stream And IP STBhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29228 » More Information On The TiVo Stream And IP STB Thu, 24 May 2012 13:52:42 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29228 [...] I made my post about the forthcoming TiVo Stream and IP STB last night I’ve been getting a lot of questions, and there were a few things I wondered about [...] [...] I made my post about the forthcoming TiVo Stream and IP STB last night I’ve been getting a lot of questions, and there were a few things I wondered about [...]

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29214 MegaZone Thu, 24 May 2012 04:27:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29214 It has actually never gone away.  I've been flushing the cache after posting and last night I forgot.  The server I host on is in a slow process of being migrated to a new box with newer software (PHP, MySQL, etc.) which will allow me to upgrade to the latest WordPress.  Right now I'm stuck on an older version because of the dependencies.  I figure I won't waste time trying to troubleshoot it until I'm on the new box and running the latest of everything. It has actually never gone away.  I’ve been flushing the cache after posting and last night I forgot.  The server I host on is in a slow process of being migrated to a new box with newer software (PHP, MySQL, etc.) which will allow me to upgrade to the latest WordPress.  Right now I’m stuck on an older version because of the dependencies.  I figure I won’t waste time trying to troubleshoot it until I’m on the new box and running the latest of everything.

]]> By: More TiVo Tidbits From The Cable Show | Gizmo Lovers Bloghttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29200 More TiVo Tidbits From The Cable Show | Gizmo Lovers Blog Wed, 23 May 2012 22:12:45 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29200 [...] May 23, 2012 by MegaZone While most of the TiVo news out of The Cable Show revolves around the TiVo Stream and IP STB, and the Pace XG1, I did talk to TiVo about a variety of issues. So this is a bit of a grab bag to [...] [...] May 23, 2012 by MegaZone While most of the TiVo news out of The Cable Show revolves around the TiVo Stream and IP STB, and the Pace XG1, I did talk to TiVo about a variety of issues. So this is a bit of a grab bag to [...]

]]> By: NoWayOut99http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29183 NoWayOut99 Wed, 23 May 2012 09:05:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29183 Awesome. Thanks a lot! FYI -- The site caching bug is back. The articles from the 21st are missing from the archive as they fall off the first page. Awesome. Thanks a lot! FYI — The site caching bug is back. The articles from the 21st are missing from the archive as they fall off the first page.

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29179 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:21:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29179 I talked about that in a new post: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/ I talked about that in a new post: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29177 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:20:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29177 The IP STB *can* schedule recordings on the XL4/Q it is paired with.  And it turns out you don't *have* to give it a tuner - you just give up Live TV on the IP STB if you don't.  http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/I'm glad the CableCARD slot is gone.  Added cost and complexity for something I don't care about. The IP STB *can* schedule recordings on the XL4/Q it is paired with.  And it turns out you don’t *have* to give it a tuner – you just give up Live TV on the IP STB if you don’t.  http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

I’m glad the CableCARD slot is gone.  Added cost and complexity for something I don’t care about.

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29178 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:20:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29178 I posted more info that addresses most of these: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/ I posted more info that addresses most of these: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29175 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:18:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29175 TiVo said they'll email those to me, I'll share it when I get it.  Unfortunately I didn't have a measure with me, and no one I talked to in the booth was sure of the correct measurements and didn't want to give out incorrect info, so they said they'll find the info and get back to me.The TiVo Stream is small, 4ish inches square maybe?  The IP STB is bigger, 5-6" square?  We'll see.I have posted some other info: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/ TiVo said they’ll email those to me, I’ll share it when I get it.  Unfortunately I didn’t have a measure with me, and no one I talked to in the booth was sure of the correct measurements and didn’t want to give out incorrect info, so they said they’ll find the info and get back to me.

The TiVo Stream is small, 4ish inches square maybe?  The IP STB is bigger, 5-6″ square?  We’ll see.

I have posted some other info: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29176 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:18:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29176 I did get more info and put up a new post: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/ I did get more info and put up a new post: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29173 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:15:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29173 It can do MRS with other units - see http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/ It can do MRS with other units – see http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29174 MegaZone Wed, 23 May 2012 08:15:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29174 I posted new info: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/No pricing details yet. I posted new info: http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/23/more-information-on-the-tivo-stream-and-ip-stb/

No pricing details yet.

]]> By: yahoo-XAEMKSC6GPW6HE4IVHYRKFBSZ4http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29168 yahoo-XAEMKSC6GPW6HE4IVHYRKFBSZ4 Wed, 23 May 2012 02:18:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29168 How long does the transcoding take?  (Hopefully essentially the same amount of time it would take to download to a computer?) How long does the transcoding take?  (Hopefully essentially the same amount of time it would take to download to a computer?)

]]> By: Fanfoothttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29165 Fanfoot Wed, 23 May 2012 01:32:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29165  I also would be perfectly fine with only being able to watch recorded shows via the IP STB.  Having to dedicate a tuner will make me seriously consider whether to buy it or not.  I'm not sure which way I would go right now.  I simply can't buy the thing assuming TiVo will make the pairing dynamic in my lifetime honestly.  Their software delivery schedule and communication have improved lately but its still pretty anemic.  Certainly not something I would count in when buying the product.That said the IP STB would be pretty perfect and I don't want a CableCARD slot in the thing really given the grief I've had with Comcast over the damn things.  Live would be of interest very very rarely and I'd rather save the $5.50/month I'd have to pay Comcast for the CableCard...Can you comment on how sideloading is going to work?  Do I launch a Tivo app on my iPad (great for iPad and iPhone, not so good for Apple TV) and let it grind away for an hour to get an hour long show transfered?  If not... how?Personally I had expected to be hooking up a Slingbox to an IP STB to get a much more flexible solution than the Stream.  But given the static tuner binding...I *love* having 4 tuners on my Elite and simply never having to worry about conflicts anymore.  Even reducing it to 3 might be too much to accept.  And in the long run I had assumed I'd be adding another IP STB to the mix.  Now that doesn't look viable.  I also would be perfectly fine with only being able to watch recorded shows via the IP STB.  Having to dedicate a tuner will make me seriously consider whether to buy it or not.  I’m not sure which way I would go right now.  I simply can’t buy the thing assuming TiVo will make the pairing dynamic in my lifetime honestly.  Their software delivery schedule and communication have improved lately but its still pretty anemic.  Certainly not something I would count in when buying the product.

That said the IP STB would be pretty perfect and I don’t want a CableCARD slot in the thing really given the grief I’ve had with Comcast over the damn things.  Live would be of interest very very rarely and I’d rather save the $5.50/month I’d have to pay Comcast for the CableCard…

Can you comment on how sideloading is going to work?  Do I launch a Tivo app on my iPad (great for iPad and iPhone, not so good for Apple TV) and let it grind away for an hour to get an hour long show transfered?  If not… how?

Personally I had expected to be hooking up a Slingbox to an IP STB to get a much more flexible solution than the Stream.  But given the static tuner binding…

I *love* having 4 tuners on my Elite and simply never having to worry about conflicts anymore.  Even reducing it to 3 might be too much to accept.  And in the long run I had assumed I’d be adding another IP STB to the mix.  Now that doesn’t look viable.

]]> By: Fanfoothttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29166 Fanfoot Wed, 23 May 2012 01:32:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29166  I also would be perfectly fine with only being able to watch recorded shows via the IP STB.  Having to dedicate a tuner will make me seriously consider whether to buy it or not.  I'm not sure which way I would go right now.  I simply can't buy the thing assuming TiVo will make the pairing dynamic in my lifetime honestly.  Their software delivery schedule and communication have improved lately but its still pretty anemic.  Certainly not something I would count in when buying the product.That said the IP STB would be pretty perfect and I don't want a CableCARD slot in the thing really given the grief I've had with Comcast over the damn things.  Live would be of interest very very rarely and I'd rather save the $5.50/month I'd have to pay Comcast for the CableCard...Can you comment on how sideloading is going to work?  Do I launch a Tivo app on my iPad (great for iPad and iPhone, not so good for Apple TV) and let it grind away for an hour to get an hour long show transfered?  If not... how?Personally I had expected to be hooking up a Slingbox to an IP STB to get a much more flexible solution than the Stream.  But given the static tuner binding...I *love* having 4 tuners on my Elite and simply never having to worry about conflicts anymore.  Even reducing it to 3 might be too much to accept.  And in the long run I had assumed I'd be adding another IP STB to the mix.  Now that doesn't look viable.  I also would be perfectly fine with only being able to watch recorded shows via the IP STB.  Having to dedicate a tuner will make me seriously consider whether to buy it or not.  I’m not sure which way I would go right now.  I simply can’t buy the thing assuming TiVo will make the pairing dynamic in my lifetime honestly.  Their software delivery schedule and communication have improved lately but its still pretty anemic.  Certainly not something I would count in when buying the product.

That said the IP STB would be pretty perfect and I don’t want a CableCARD slot in the thing really given the grief I’ve had with Comcast over the damn things.  Live would be of interest very very rarely and I’d rather save the $5.50/month I’d have to pay Comcast for the CableCard…

Can you comment on how sideloading is going to work?  Do I launch a Tivo app on my iPad (great for iPad and iPhone, not so good for Apple TV) and let it grind away for an hour to get an hour long show transfered?  If not… how?

Personally I had expected to be hooking up a Slingbox to an IP STB to get a much more flexible solution than the Stream.  But given the static tuner binding…

I *love* having 4 tuners on my Elite and simply never having to worry about conflicts anymore.  Even reducing it to 3 might be too much to accept.  And in the long run I had assumed I’d be adding another IP STB to the mix.  Now that doesn’t look viable.

]]> By: Fanfoothttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29167 Fanfoot Wed, 23 May 2012 01:32:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29167  I also would be perfectly fine with only being able to watch recorded shows via the IP STB.  Having to dedicate a tuner will make me seriously consider whether to buy it or not.  I'm not sure which way I would go right now.  I simply can't buy the thing assuming TiVo will make the pairing dynamic in my lifetime honestly.  Their software delivery schedule and communication have improved lately but its still pretty anemic.  Certainly not something I would count in when buying the product.That said the IP STB would be pretty perfect and I don't want a CableCARD slot in the thing really given the grief I've had with Comcast over the damn things.  Live would be of interest very very rarely and I'd rather save the $5.50/month I'd have to pay Comcast for the CableCard...Can you comment on how sideloading is going to work?  Do I launch a Tivo app on my iPad (great for iPad and iPhone, not so good for Apple TV) and let it grind away for an hour to get an hour long show transfered?  If not... how?Personally I had expected to be hooking up a Slingbox to an IP STB to get a much more flexible solution than the Stream.  But given the static tuner binding...I *love* having 4 tuners on my Elite and simply never having to worry about conflicts anymore.  Even reducing it to 3 might be too much to accept.  And in the long run I had assumed I'd be adding another IP STB to the mix.  Now that doesn't look viable.  I also would be perfectly fine with only being able to watch recorded shows via the IP STB.  Having to dedicate a tuner will make me seriously consider whether to buy it or not.  I’m not sure which way I would go right now.  I simply can’t buy the thing assuming TiVo will make the pairing dynamic in my lifetime honestly.  Their software delivery schedule and communication have improved lately but its still pretty anemic.  Certainly not something I would count in when buying the product.

That said the IP STB would be pretty perfect and I don’t want a CableCARD slot in the thing really given the grief I’ve had with Comcast over the damn things.  Live would be of interest very very rarely and I’d rather save the $5.50/month I’d have to pay Comcast for the CableCard…

Can you comment on how sideloading is going to work?  Do I launch a Tivo app on my iPad (great for iPad and iPhone, not so good for Apple TV) and let it grind away for an hour to get an hour long show transfered?  If not… how?

Personally I had expected to be hooking up a Slingbox to an IP STB to get a much more flexible solution than the Stream.  But given the static tuner binding…

I *love* having 4 tuners on my Elite and simply never having to worry about conflicts anymore.  Even reducing it to 3 might be too much to accept.  And in the long run I had assumed I’d be adding another IP STB to the mix.  Now that doesn’t look viable.

]]> By: Ben Drawbaughhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29164 Ben Drawbaugh Tue, 22 May 2012 20:02:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29164 It really does amaze me that Microsoft had extenders working for 5 years now. If the IP box can't schedule recordings and always requires a tuner (for the spoiler window to work, no doubt), I'm not sure I'm looking forward to it anymore. I knew I wasn't happy when the CableCARD slot was pulled from the Preview for Retail and now I'm remind how right I was. It really does amaze me that Microsoft had extenders working for 5 years now. 

If the IP box can’t schedule recordings and always requires a tuner (for the spoiler window to work, no doubt), I’m not sure I’m looking forward to it anymore. I knew I wasn’t happy when the CableCARD slot was pulled from the Preview for Retail and now I’m remind how right I was.

]]> By: NoWayOut99http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29163 NoWayOut99 Tue, 22 May 2012 18:00:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29163 Thanks. I have an Elite for it to pair with, but it'd be a bummer if it couldn't see my other vanilla Premiere in the livingroom to MRS with as well (at first). Thanks. I have an Elite for it to pair with, but it’d be a bummer if it couldn’t see my other vanilla Premiere in the livingroom to MRS with as well (at first).

]]> By: Brennokhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29162 Brennok Tue, 22 May 2012 16:26:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29162 Have they said anything about how quickly the Stream is at transcoding? I am curious how quickly it can say convert a hour HD program and what size file you end up with.It seems like it might be a nice tool for offloading content marked copy freely to the PC while not tying up the CPU like KMTTG would. I just wonder if they will be transcoding it to something that doesn't look as nice when pushed or pulled back to the TiVo compared to say a MKV acquired from other sources.Also any chance it might also allow you to stream content from the PC to the TiVo? Have they said anything about how quickly the Stream is at transcoding? I am curious how quickly it can say convert a hour HD program and what size file you end up with.

It seems like it might be a nice tool for offloading content marked copy freely to the PC while not tying up the CPU like KMTTG would. I just wonder if they will be transcoding it to something that doesn’t look as nice when pushed or pulled back to the TiVo compared to say a MKV acquired from other sources.

Also any chance it might also allow you to stream content from the PC to the TiVo?

]]> By: Das Ravenhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29161 Das Raven Tue, 22 May 2012 15:59:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29161 What are the physical dimensions of the Stream and IP-STB like?Closer to the Roku2 @ 3.x" or larger?  Looks something like 6x6" What are the physical dimensions of the Stream and IP-STB like?

Closer to the Roku2 @ 3.x” or larger?  Looks something like 6×6″

]]> By: tlchttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29160 tlc Tue, 22 May 2012 15:15:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29160 Please report back if they let you know about not allocating any tuner (and giving up live tv) on the STB.  Also, are there any monthly fees associated with these boxes?Thanks Please report back if they let you know about not allocating any tuner (and giving up live tv) on the STB.  

Also, are there any monthly fees associated with these boxes?

Thanks

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29148 MegaZone Tue, 22 May 2012 08:49:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29148 My understanding is that the IP STB is paired with a single XL4 only.  But I didn't specifically ask if it could do MRS with other units, I'll try to find out. My understanding is that the IP STB is paired with a single XL4 only.  But I didn’t specifically ask if it could do MRS with other units, I’ll try to find out.

]]> By: NoWayOut99http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29144 NoWayOut99 Tue, 22 May 2012 08:32:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29144 Great article MZ, thanks. Even though the IP STB is bonded to an XL4 for its tuner at first, is it still possible to at least stream recordings from other plain Tivos on the network? Great article MZ, thanks. Even though the IP STB is bonded to an XL4 for its tuner at first, is it still possible to at least stream recordings from other plain Tivos on the network?

]]> By: NoWayOut99http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/05/22/tivo-stream-and-ip-stb-coming-to-msos-and-retail-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29147 NoWayOut99 Tue, 22 May 2012 08:32:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9561#comment-29147 Great article MZ, thanks. Even though the IP STB is bonded to an XL4 for its tuner at first, is it still possible to at least stream recordings from other plain Tivos on the network? Great article MZ, thanks. Even though the IP STB is bonded to an XL4 for its tuner at first, is it still possible to at least stream recordings from other plain Tivos on the network?

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