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> <channel><title>Comments on: TiVo To Ship Place Shifting Transcoder Box This Year</title> <atom:link href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/</link> <description>TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about...</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4</generator> <item><title>By: TiVo Stream and IP STB Coming To MSOs and Retail This Year &#124; Gizmo Lovers Blog</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29172</link> <dc:creator>TiVo Stream and IP STB Coming To MSOs and Retail This Year &#124; Gizmo Lovers Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 08:13:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29172</guid> <description>[...] Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 by MegaZone Back in February I posted about TiVo&#8217;s planned transcoding box and IP STB thin-client, without too many details. Well, The Cable Show is in Boston this week and [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Posted on Tuesday, May 22, 2012 by MegaZone Back in February I posted about TiVo&#8217;s planned transcoding box and IP STB thin-client, without too many details. Well, The Cable Show is in Boston this week and [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29153</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29153</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29154</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29154</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29155</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29155</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29156</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29156</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29157</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29157</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29158</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29158</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Corporate Communications</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29159</link> <dc:creator>Corporate Communications</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29159</guid> <description>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your speculation was correct. The news went out this morning.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sorry For The Silence &#8211; And The Cable Show Next Week &#124; Gizmo Lovers Blog</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-29124</link> <dc:creator>Sorry For The Silence &#8211; And The Cable Show Next Week &#124; Gizmo Lovers Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 06:24:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-29124</guid> <description>[...] about, leave a comment. Oh, but don&#8217;t suggest asking about obvious stuff like the forthcoming transcoder box and IP STB, or the new SDK, as those are already on my list to follow up on, along with the rest of [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] about, leave a comment. Oh, but don&#8217;t suggest asking about obvious stuff like the forthcoming transcoder box and IP STB, or the new SDK, as those are already on my list to follow up on, along with the rest of [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Road Ahead For TiVo &#124; Gizmo Lovers Blog</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28855</link> <dc:creator>The Road Ahead For TiVo &#124; Gizmo Lovers Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:13:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28855</guid> <description>[...] Manager, Jessica Loebig, and VP &amp; GM of Product Marketing, Jim Denney, in my posts on the transcoding box and the IP STB, but we discussed more than those two products. We also discussed plans for the next [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Manager, Jessica Loebig, and VP &amp; GM of Product Marketing, Jim Denney, in my posts on the transcoding box and the IP STB, but we discussed more than those two products. We also discussed plans for the next [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MegaZone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28852</link> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28852</guid> <description>We don&#039;t know what the power demands of this transcoder box are, so we can&#039;t say if it could run off PoE or not.I don&#039;t think PoE will ever catch on.  Pretty much every PoE device I&#039;ve ever worked with, that wasn&#039;t an IP phone, came with it&#039;s own wall wart.  Usually Ethernet into the wart, then one Ethernet/PoE cable to the device.  Only a slight bit neater.And very, very few home routers, gateways, or switches provide power for PoE.  Adding PoE to the device, presuming it could get enough juice, would add cost.  And they&#039;d still have to ship a wart for the majority of users.  So I can understand why they don&#039;t use it.  A wart that does PoE would cost more than a standard off-the-shelf unit.Which is also why I don&#039;t see it catching on in the home.  Catch-22.  You&#039;d need more devices with PoE support to drive routers &amp; switches to include it, but router &amp; switch vendors aren&#039;t going to include it unless the demand is there.  Couple that with the move to Wireless - so less Ethernet in general - and I don&#039;t see it happening.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t know what the power demands of this transcoder box are, so we can&#8217;t say if it could run off PoE or not.</p><p>I don&#8217;t think PoE will ever catch on.  Pretty much every PoE device I&#8217;ve ever worked with, that wasn&#8217;t an IP phone, came with it&#8217;s own wall wart.  Usually Ethernet into the wart, then one Ethernet/PoE cable to the device.  Only a slight bit neater.</p><p>And very, very few home routers, gateways, or switches provide power for PoE.  Adding PoE to the device, presuming it could get enough juice, would add cost.  And they&#8217;d still have to ship a wart for the majority of users.  So I can understand why they don&#8217;t use it.  A wart that does PoE would cost more than a standard off-the-shelf unit.</p><p>Which is also why I don&#8217;t see it catching on in the home.  Catch-22.  You&#8217;d need more devices with PoE support to drive routers &amp; switches to include it, but router &amp; switch vendors aren&#8217;t going to include it unless the demand is there.  Couple that with the move to Wireless &#8211; so less Ethernet in general &#8211; and I don&#8217;t see it happening.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: UncleAlbert2</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28849</link> <dc:creator>UncleAlbert2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28849</guid> <description> Yes, hardly any surprise when so few devices currently support PoE, so it&#039;s chicken and egg.A dongle that allows power to be injected into the Ethernet cable from a standard wall wart would seem an acceptable and cheap solution to help kick-start interest/raise awareness in PoE capable routers/switches. When devices are launched, like this TiVo transcoder, with only an RJ45 socket and a power socket, the argument against PoE seems rather perverse.As to the point, with many low-power streamers now coming to market which would all be perfect for PoE, they could all (in the future) be powered from a single wall-wart courtesy of my PoE enabled network switch. There would be no need for a multitude of wall-warts, one for each networked device, when instead they could be drawing power from the ethernet cable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Yes, hardly any surprise when so few devices currently support PoE, so it&#8217;s chicken and egg.</p><p>A dongle that allows power to be injected into the Ethernet cable from a standard wall wart would seem an acceptable and cheap solution to help kick-start interest/raise awareness in PoE capable routers/switches. When devices are launched, like this TiVo transcoder, with only an RJ45 socket and a power socket, the argument against PoE seems rather perverse.</p><p>As to the point, with many low-power streamers now coming to market which would all be perfect for PoE, they could all (in the future) be powered from a single wall-wart courtesy of my PoE enabled network switch. There would be no need for a multitude of wall-warts, one for each networked device, when instead they could be drawing power from the ethernet cable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fanfoot</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28847</link> <dc:creator>Fanfoot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:19:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28847</guid> <description>Well, why would I use this?For sideloading?  Sounds like I&#039;d probably have to queue up a transfer, then wait an hour (or the length of the show), and tell it to save it.  Then queue up another one?  Ugh.  Sounds awful.With TTG I can queue up a transfer ahead of time, and have it ready and waiting in iTunes for the next time I plug in my iPhone/iPad.  Or sync via Wi-Fi when I plug the thing in to charge overnight.  All pretty automatic.  Won&#039;t work for premium/no copy content of course, but then I suspect neither will sideloading.For streaming in the home?  Well, in the home I&#039;ve got these big monitors called TVs that I can use.  So why do I need to stream to my iPad?  I guess as a personal monitor, when there aren&#039;t enough TVs?  Doesn&#039;t happen a lot in my house anyway. For streaming away from the home?  Well, that&#039;s the killer app really, but the one TiVo may not support.  And for which I bought SlingBoxes that work pretty well.  This would be better than that because it wouldn&#039;t take over the UI on the TV in question, which would be great.  But they&#039;d have to prove their mettle wrt streaming over low bandwidth hotel WiFi and such.I suspect it will be easy enough to VPN into your home network to force it to stream remotely, but if they haven&#039;t dealt with the ABR streaming issues in their implementation it probably won&#039;t work that well most of the time, so we&#039;ll likely have to wait until they get around to supporting it.  If ever.Honestly, more interested in the new &quot;IP&quot; box.  Lets see when that comes out, what price point it hits, how it handles live TV, whether it requires a cable card, what the monthly service fee is, etc. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, why would I use this?</p><p>For sideloading?  Sounds like I&#8217;d probably have to queue up a transfer, then wait an hour (or the length of the show), and tell it to save it.  Then queue up another one?  Ugh.  Sounds awful.</p><p>With TTG I can queue up a transfer ahead of time, and have it ready and waiting in iTunes for the next time I plug in my iPhone/iPad.  Or sync via Wi-Fi when I plug the thing in to charge overnight.  All pretty automatic.  Won&#8217;t work for premium/no copy content of course, but then I suspect neither will sideloading.</p><p>For streaming in the home?  Well, in the home I&#8217;ve got these big monitors called TVs that I can use.  So why do I need to stream to my iPad?  I guess as a personal monitor, when there aren&#8217;t enough TVs?  Doesn&#8217;t happen a lot in my house anyway. </p><p>For streaming away from the home?  Well, that&#8217;s the killer app really, but the one TiVo may not support.  And for which I bought SlingBoxes that work pretty well.  This would be better than that because it wouldn&#8217;t take over the UI on the TV in question, which would be great.  But they&#8217;d have to prove their mettle wrt streaming over low bandwidth hotel WiFi and such.</p><p>I suspect it will be easy enough to VPN into your home network to force it to stream remotely, but if they haven&#8217;t dealt with the ABR streaming issues in their implementation it probably won&#8217;t work that well most of the time, so we&#8217;ll likely have to wait until they get around to supporting it.  If ever.</p><p>Honestly, more interested in the new &#8220;IP&#8221; box.  Lets see when that comes out, what price point it hits, how it handles live TV, whether it requires a cable card, what the monthly service fee is, etc.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fanfoot</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28845</link> <dc:creator>Fanfoot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28845</guid> <description>There aren&#039;t a lot of little home Ethernet switches with PoE support honestly.  You&#039;d end up with an in-line dongle in most cases which would of course have a wall wart to give it power.  Not sure what the point would be.  If this were something you wanted to place on the ceiling or something I could understand the point, but as it is...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There aren&#8217;t a lot of little home Ethernet switches with PoE support honestly.  You&#8217;d end up with an in-line dongle in most cases which would of course have a wall wart to give it power.  Not sure what the point would be.  If this were something you wanted to place on the ceiling or something I could understand the point, but as it is&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Fanfoot</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28846</link> <dc:creator>Fanfoot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:12:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28846</guid> <description>There aren&#039;t a lot of little home Ethernet switches with PoE support honestly.  You&#039;d end up with an in-line dongle in most cases which would of course have a wall wart to give it power.  Not sure what the point would be.  If this were something you wanted to place on the ceiling or something I could understand the point, but as it is...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There aren&#8217;t a lot of little home Ethernet switches with PoE support honestly.  You&#8217;d end up with an in-line dongle in most cases which would of course have a wall wart to give it power.  Not sure what the point would be.  If this were something you wanted to place on the ceiling or something I could understand the point, but as it is&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: UncleAlbert2</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2012/02/23/tivo-to-ship-place-shifting-transcoder-box-this-year/comment-page-1/#comment-28844</link> <dc:creator>UncleAlbert2</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:49:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=9087#comment-28844</guid> <description>Kind of a shame TiVo didn&#039;t offer the option of powering the transcoding box using PoE, completely eliminating the need for yet another wall wart. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of a shame TiVo didn&#8217;t offer the option of powering the transcoding box using PoE, completely eliminating the need for yet another wall wart.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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