Speculation on the Google-Motorola Deal and TiVo

TiVo Logo I just made a pretty damn long post about the Google buyout of Motorola Mobility. But there was one other aspect that I felt was better off in a separate post. And here it is.

This acquisition has spurred talk in some circles about TiVo’s fate. Why? Well, a number of people think TiVo is a candidate for a buyout. TiVo still has a poison pill to prevent a hostile takeover, but that is expiring in November. And even with the pill in place the BoD can accept a buyout offer at any time without triggering the pill. The pill just helps prevent hostile bids.

There has been speculation that Google could be a suitor. TiVo has a history with hardware, a successful DVR platform, and deals with MSOs. All things Google could use to beef up Google TV – but now all things they have in Motorola, only moreso.

On the other hand, TiVo is involved with patent lawsuits with Verizon (who uses Motorola HW) and AT&T (who also uses Motorola HW), having recently finally settled with Dish Network for $500 million. If Google feels that they may have a liability in these suits, it is possible that they would seek to have them settled as part of the acquisition. Possibly even buying TiVo in order to do so, along with acquiring their patents which could be useful for Google TV and Motorola’s own DVRs. Though I think that’d be a drastic step to take, they could likely settle with TiVo for less than the cost of a buyout. They’d really have to see value in owning the whole package to go that far.

Personally, while my dream marriage would be Google buying TiVo and integrating it into Google TV, I think that is much less likely to happen now that Google has MMI – on top of their recent SageTV acquisition. They’ll have everything they need to roll their own super STB in house once the Motorola deal closes.

On the other hand, if I’m Cisco, Motorola’s largest competitor in the STB market, I might be looking to beef up my product offering. Cisco and TiVo already work together – Cisco is providing the hardware for Virgin Media in the UK and ONO in Spain. So they have a solid track record. Cisco’s STB software has perhaps a worse reputation than Motorola’s, and offering a TiVo-based solution could be a real shot in the arm for them. Especially if Google does push Google TV onto Motorola DVRs.

Cisco also has a retail presence through Linksys, and increasingly under their own brand. They’re familiar with STB hardware, DVRs, retail, and TiVo’s software. They could conceivably add the TiVo Premiere, Premiere XL, Premiere Elite, and Preview to their STB lineup as is for both retail and MSOs. Motorola did something similar when they offered a couple of Moxi-based DVRs and the MoxiMate to MSOs. Those units were unlike any others in their lineup. That would be a rapid way for Cisco to offer a TiVo-based solution, and then they could incorporate the interface into their other STBs going forward.

Of course, that’s all pure speculation. Cisco seems to have little to lose in buying TiVo though. There’s nothing to upset the existing MSO deals in the US, or in most other countries. Most of the foreign TiVo deals are using TiVo developed or Cisco HW already. It could cause some friction with the DirecTV deal as that is using Technicolor HW, same for the Scandinavian deal with Canal Digital, but that could be addressed in contracts. And even if it killed the deals, I think Cisco could live with it. The DirecTV deal is approaching two years past due now and there’s reason to be skeptical about it ever coming to fruition at this point anyway.

I don’t think it would cause an issue for deals like the Best Buy Insignia TVs as there is no direct competition with any Cisco products. They’re complimentary, not competitive.

On the other hand it would give Cisco’s STB product line a boost when trying to land deals with MSOs against Motorola, especially if the latter gets Google TV.

In light of the Google-Motorola deal, as pure speculation, I think I’d consider Cisco the leading candidate to acquire TiVo at this point. I don’t necessarily think it will happen, just that if anyone did I’d put them in the lead.

As for other suitors that have been speculated on.

Apple – No way. They have a strong ‘Not Invented Here’ culture. TiVo is Linux based, Apple uses BSD, it’d be a major rewrite to bring TiVo over to iOS to merge it with Apple TV or the like. And Apple is all about providing content silos via iTunes, I’m not sure a DVR fits their plans.

Microsoft – Doubtful. MS is mildly allergic to Linux. They already have Media Center and successful IPTV STB software – AT&T runs on it. They also have the Xbox 360 for OTT content. Media center extenders are neglected, but still out there too. If MS wanted to get into the DVR business I think they’d roll their own based on their existing STB software before buying TiVo.

Rovi – Maybe. Rovi, formerly known as Macrovision Solutions Corporation, has several product lines, including software for set top boxes. If they had an inclination to get into DVRs and get onto more MSO boxes, they might do so via TiVo.

Dish Network or EchoStar – Doubtful. There was speculation that they may buy TiVo as a way to settle their long-running lawsuit. But now that they’ve settled the case I don’t see Dish or EchoStar having a good reason to buy TiVo. EchoStar already has one of the better DVR platforms out there, along with Slingbox, so they have little to gain in a buyout.

DirecTV – Doubtful. With the new DirecTiVo sliding further and further to the right, DirecTV hardly seems excited about TiVo. They already have a deal in place that covers TiVo’s patents, and they seem to be happy evolving their own DVRs. And they already acquired ReplayTV’s IP a few years back, so they have DVR patents of their own too.

I’ve seen other speculation – that NDS might buy them to kill the competition off or that Comcast (or another MSO) will buy them to monopolize the TiVo interface on their network, etc. But all of those seem even less likely to me.

Right now, I think Cisco would gain the most from acquiring TiVo.

Of course, then again, Cisco has been pulling back from consumer products, such as in shutting down Flip. So I might be completely off base.

But, like I said, this is all just speculation. It is fun to talk about, but I’m not going to put down money on any of these deals happening.

So, what do you think? What does the Google-Motorola deal mean for TiVo, if anything? Or who do you think might be a suitor for TiVo? Or do you think that’s backwards and TiVo is going to use part of their $500 million award from EchoStar/Dish to buy someone else? Or just grow organically?

Leave a comment with your thoughts!

About MegaZone

MegaZone is the Editor of Gizmo Lovers and the chief contributor. He's been online since 1989 and active in several generations of 'social media' - mailing lists, USENet groups, web forums, and since 2003, blogging.    MegaZone has a presence on several social platforms: Google+ / Facebook / Twitter / LinkedIn / LiveJournal / Web.    You can also follow Gizmo Lovers on other sites: Blog / Google+ / Facebook / Twitter.
This entry was posted in Broadband, Cable, DirecTV, Dish Network, DVR, EchoStar, Google, Google TV, Motorola, Scientific Atlanta, TiVo and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink.
  • http://twitter.com/TechWzrd Tech Wizard

    I think the TiVo software running on Cisco hardware on VMED opened Cisco’s eyes to the power of TiVo running on their platform. Cisco is cash rich and could easily afford the TiVo price-tag. Cisco is also entrenched with Time Warner Cable and would help prevent any new litigation on that front.

    Enjoyed the thorough analysis!

  • http://twitter.com/TechWzrd Tech Wizard

    I think the TiVo software running on Cisco hardware on VMED opened Cisco’s eyes to the power of TiVo running on their platform. Cisco is cash rich and could easily afford the TiVo price-tag. Cisco is also entrenched with Time Warner Cable and would help prevent any new litigation on that front.

    Enjoyed the thorough analysis!

  • http://twitter.com/hemo_jr Matt Hickman

    I think you may have overlooked another potential suitor, Virgin.  I doubt that MSOs in the US will be scared off by this hypothetical, Virgin appears (from afar, anyway) to be strategically aligned with TiVo.  And I believe it could be a good thing for TiVo customers.

  • http://twitter.com/hemo_jr Matt Hickman

    I think you may have overlooked another potential suitor, Virgin.  I doubt that MSOs in the US will be scared off by this hypothetical, Virgin appears (from afar, anyway) to be strategically aligned with TiVo.  And I believe it could be a good thing for TiVo customers.

  • http://twitter.com/hemo_jr Matt Hickman

    I think you may have overlooked another potential suitor, Virgin.  I doubt that MSOs in the US will be scared off by this hypothetical, Virgin appears (from afar, anyway) to be strategically aligned with TiVo.  And I believe it could be a good thing for TiVo customers.

  • http://twitter.com/hemo_jr Matt Hickman

    I think you may have overlooked another potential suitor, Virgin.  I doubt that MSOs in the US will be scared off by this hypothetical, Virgin appears (from afar, anyway) to be strategically aligned with TiVo.  And I believe it could be a good thing for TiVo customers.

  • http://twitter.com/hemo_jr Matt Hickman

    I think you may have overlooked another potential suitor, Virgin.  I doubt that MSOs in the US will be scared off by this hypothetical, Virgin appears (from afar, anyway) to be strategically aligned with TiVo.  And I believe it could be a good thing for TiVo customers.

    • http://www.gizmolovers.com/ MegaZone

      I’ve seen them suggested before, but I discount the possibility of Virgin Media buying TiVo.  Buying TiVo wouldn’t give VM any value from TiVo’s HW business – they use Cisco boxes.  They already seem to have extensive influence, if not control, over the evolution of the TiVo software as a premium partner – if you’re getting the milk for free, why buy the cow?  With TiVo’s Flash-based app environment it seems VM can already add their own apps to their boxes without going through TiVo.

      I just don’t think TiVo is worth buying just to gain more control over their software.  Definitely not for Virgin Media, they’re not in the hardware or retail business.  Another part of the Virgin empire, maybe, but even then I’m not really seeing the value to them in owning TiVo.  If & when TiVo manages to sustain a profit, then that’s a reason to own them.

      But Virgin Media seems to be getting everything they need to be successful already, without the massive expense of an acquisition and the headaches of running a multinational hardware vendor.

  • http://twitter.com/hemo_jr Matt Hickman

    I think you may have overlooked another potential suitor, Virgin.  I doubt that MSOs in the US will be scared off by this hypothetical, Virgin appears (from afar, anyway) to be strategically aligned with TiVo.  And I believe it could be a good thing for TiVo customers.

  • http://www.techofthehub.com The Hub

    The other possibility is that this will help TiVo close deals with additional MSOs. They may not feel comfortable buying from Motorola after the acquisition.

  • http://www.techofthehub.com The Hub

    The other possibility is that this will help TiVo close deals with additional MSOs. They may not feel comfortable buying from Motorola after the acquisition.

  • http://www.techofthehub.com The Hub

    The other possibility is that this will help TiVo close deals with additional MSOs. They may not feel comfortable buying from Motorola after the acquisition.

    • http://www.gizmolovers.com/ MegaZone

      I don’t think that’ll really be an issue.  Motorola controls something like 63% of the STB market in the US, and it is an expensive proposition to switch to a new vendor.  New stock, testing, training, possible changes to the head end, etc.

      And Google isn’t a competitor, yet anyway.  The only video service they really have is YouTube, and some MSOs already offer that on their STBs.  They’re only just dipping a toe into broadband.  And Google voice really doesn’t compete with phone service – it rides on top of existing services for most users.

      I think MSOs are more likely to embrace Google than shun them.  Especially if shunning Google might spur them to go off and become a competitor – if you can join them, beat them.