Comments on: New TiVo OS Update Removes Unofficial Premiere-to-Premiere Streaming http://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/07/23/new-tivo-os-update-removes-unofficial-premiere-to-premiere-streaming/ TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about... Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/07/23/new-tivo-os-update-removes-unofficial-premiere-to-premiere-streaming/comment-page-1/#comment-27676 MegaZone Mon, 25 Jul 2011 04:40:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=4182#comment-27676 I think you guys are being too harsh.  Remember, this is in development, and I doubt TiVo did this update just to kill the feature.  It is clearly incomplete.  What if the current level of implementation has serious issues - what if it has memory leaks that cause crashes or cause other failures, like a failure to record because some runaway process steps on something else?  There are any number of legitimate reasons they could have turned it off - including it not being deliberate, but that it being on in the first place is a bug that they've simply fixed.Deliberately making it available in any form requires it to meet some minimal level of functionality and ensuring it doesn't cause broader problems.  We know it was buggy, users who played with it reported a number of bugs.  But we don't know how bad those bugs might be - users only see the surface symptoms, or may not associated other glitches with this feature, thinking them unrelated.We got a glimpse of what they're working on, and it seemed to work so-so.  But that doesn't mean there weren't serious issues with it being used in the current state that we just don't know about.In the end, it was clearly not ready for prime time - and given the bugs reported by those who used it, not even ready for a public beta.  It seems to be alpha, maybe early beta, and I don't have a problem with TiVo taking it back into the shop to do more work before letting the public have a go at it. I think you guys are being too harsh.  Remember, this is in development, and I doubt TiVo did this update just to kill the feature.  It is clearly incomplete.  What if the current level of implementation has serious issues – what if it has memory leaks that cause crashes or cause other failures, like a failure to record because some runaway process steps on something else?  There are any number of legitimate reasons they could have turned it off – including it not being deliberate, but that it being on in the first place is a bug that they’ve simply fixed.

Deliberately making it available in any form requires it to meet some minimal level of functionality and ensuring it doesn’t cause broader problems.  We know it was buggy, users who played with it reported a number of bugs.  But we don’t know how bad those bugs might be – users only see the surface symptoms, or may not associated other glitches with this feature, thinking them unrelated.

We got a glimpse of what they’re working on, and it seemed to work so-so.  But that doesn’t mean there weren’t serious issues with it being used in the current state that we just don’t know about.

In the end, it was clearly not ready for prime time – and given the bugs reported by those who used it, not even ready for a public beta.  It seems to be alpha, maybe early beta, and I don’t have a problem with TiVo taking it back into the shop to do more work before letting the public have a go at it.

]]> By: Sam Billerhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/07/23/new-tivo-os-update-removes-unofficial-premiere-to-premiere-streaming/comment-page-1/#comment-27675 Sam Biller Sun, 24 Jul 2011 12:01:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=4182#comment-27675 They should release it in a public beta allowing any interested Premiere user to sign-up for it. This would be a win-win for TiVo in my view. They should release it in a public beta allowing any interested Premiere user to sign-up for it. This would be a win-win for TiVo in my view.

]]> By: Dave Zatzhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/07/23/new-tivo-os-update-removes-unofficial-premiere-to-premiere-streaming/comment-page-1/#comment-27673 Dave Zatz Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:31:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=4182#comment-27673 "TiVo was damned if they did and damned if they didn’t."Except it was mostly hidden. They should have left it be. “TiVo was damned if they did and damned if they didn’t.”

Except it was mostly hidden. They should have left it be.

]]> By: Rojcowleshttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/07/23/new-tivo-os-update-removes-unofficial-premiere-to-premiere-streaming/comment-page-1/#comment-27669 Rojcowles Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:54:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=4182#comment-27669 I played with it a little bit but only to stream Tivo Podcasts from one Premiere to the other as we can do MRV, no CCI bit, , and then only because I could.  Even then it did seem a bit flaky so no big loss here. I did also try and stream an Amazon VOD movie from one to the other but that, reasonably enough, was blocked from streaming as well as MRV. I played with it a little bit but only to stream Tivo Podcasts from one Premiere to the other as we can do MRV, no CCI bit, , and then only because I could.  Even then it did seem a bit flaky so no big loss here. I did also try and stream an Amazon VOD movie from one to the other but that, reasonably enough, was blocked from streaming as well as MRV.

]]> By: Rojcowleshttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2011/07/23/new-tivo-os-update-removes-unofficial-premiere-to-premiere-streaming/comment-page-1/#comment-27670 Rojcowles Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:54:00 +0000 http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=4182#comment-27670 I played with it a little bit but only to stream Tivo Podcasts from one Premiere to the other as we can do MRV, no CCI bit, , and then only because I could.  Even then it did seem a bit flaky so no big loss here. I did also try and stream an Amazon VOD movie from one to the other but that, reasonably enough, was blocked from streaming as well as MRV. I played with it a little bit but only to stream Tivo Podcasts from one Premiere to the other as we can do MRV, no CCI bit, , and then only because I could.  Even then it did seem a bit flaky so no big loss here. I did also try and stream an Amazon VOD movie from one to the other but that, reasonably enough, was blocked from streaming as well as MRV.

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