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> <channel><title>Comments on: TiVo Desktop Has Serious Bugs</title> <atom:link href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/</link> <description>TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about...</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4</generator> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-26032</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-26032</guid> <description>Glen - Use DVDShrink in conjunction w/ AnyDVD...You can set DVDShrink to make a single .vob file. Saves you the step of having to stitch the 1GB files together. Probably not a huge time saver, but every bit helps.Completely agree on the need to be able to rip an iso of the disc and play the whole thing on the TiVo.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen &#8211; Use DVDShrink in conjunction w/ AnyDVD&#8230;You can set DVDShrink to make a single .vob file. Saves you the step of having to stitch the 1GB files together. Probably not a huge time saver, but every bit helps.</p><p>Completely agree on the need to be able to rip an iso of the disc and play the whole thing on the TiVo.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Glenn</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-26029</link> <dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 05:50:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-26029</guid> <description>Well, I&#039;m still relatively happy with Tivo Desktop, but have been patiently waiting for changes for some time now.I&#039;ve taken to transcoding the Top Gear episodes to Tivo format myself, since the conversion for the Tivo HD doesn&#039;t really produce a decent product.  For some things maybe I don&#039;t care, and the automatic transcodes Tivo does are easier.  But for something I care about, being able to select the 16:9 high bit rate profile for the Tivo HD in Videora, just works so much better.  It seems like about time for the auto-conversion to be a little more sensitive to the capabilities of the Tivo it targets.And folders?  Anybody remember those?Personally, I don&#039;t use the Tivo for music, photos or podcasts anymore.  I have an Apple TV for that.  The GUI on the Apple TV is just lightyears better than the Tivo for stuff like this.  Sorry, but its true.  Hopefully the new Search feature is a hint of future Tivo GUI changes to come.All in all I&#039;m still a happy Tivo consumer.  2 x Tivo HD&#039;s and one remaining Tivo DT all on the same network happily talking to each other and my TV.  And Tivo Desktop happily churning away converting stuff for my iPod and letting me watch shows I download.My one real wish would be for a way to watch the WHOLE DVD on my Tivo, meaning not just the main title, but all the extras, captions, commentary, etc.  Even DVD images.  I wish somebody would support a RIPPED format for the complete DVD and there were some software out there that would create that format with little to no interaction on my part.  I have AnyDVD, and while I can decrypt the VOB them merge the 1GB sections, then quick fix that, then convert the whole thing to a Tivo format, and REPEAT for each special feature, its a PAIN.  And captions still don&#039;t work.  And ...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m still relatively happy with Tivo Desktop, but have been patiently waiting for changes for some time now.</p><p>I&#8217;ve taken to transcoding the Top Gear episodes to Tivo format myself, since the conversion for the Tivo HD doesn&#8217;t really produce a decent product.  For some things maybe I don&#8217;t care, and the automatic transcodes Tivo does are easier.  But for something I care about, being able to select the 16:9 high bit rate profile for the Tivo HD in Videora, just works so much better.  It seems like about time for the auto-conversion to be a little more sensitive to the capabilities of the Tivo it targets.</p><p>And folders?  Anybody remember those?</p><p>Personally, I don&#8217;t use the Tivo for music, photos or podcasts anymore.  I have an Apple TV for that.  The GUI on the Apple TV is just lightyears better than the Tivo for stuff like this.  Sorry, but its true.  Hopefully the new Search feature is a hint of future Tivo GUI changes to come.</p><p>All in all I&#8217;m still a happy Tivo consumer.  2 x Tivo HD&#8217;s and one remaining Tivo DT all on the same network happily talking to each other and my TV.  And Tivo Desktop happily churning away converting stuff for my iPod and letting me watch shows I download.</p><p>My one real wish would be for a way to watch the WHOLE DVD on my Tivo, meaning not just the main title, but all the extras, captions, commentary, etc.  Even DVD images.  I wish somebody would support a RIPPED format for the complete DVD and there were some software out there that would create that format with little to no interaction on my part.  I have AnyDVD, and while I can decrypt the VOB them merge the 1GB sections, then quick fix that, then convert the whole thing to a Tivo format, and REPEAT for each special feature, its a PAIN.  And captions still don&#8217;t work.  And &#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MegaZone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-26008</link> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-26008</guid> <description>Dave,I agree that it would be better in the cloud.  I can understand TiVo&#039;s reluctance to commit those kind of server and bandwidth resources to transcoding for a free service though.  Still, there are so many things that could be improved.  Put the RSS engine in the cloud.  Use XMPP to manage the downloads.  If the format is H.264 or WMV/VC-1 then HD TiVos can be told to pull it down directly, no PC required.  For other formats, and for Series2 users, it would message TiVo Desktop to tell it what to do.  This would remove all the RSS crap from TiVo Desktop and eliminate the utter stupidity of having to re-create all your subscriptions if you change PCs or even have to reinstall on the same PC.  All registering a new install would do would be to change which client gets the message.As for the deals, that&#039;s what I mean.  I think TiVo likes to be in control of what content gets on the box and negotiating the deals gets them promotional consideration on the other websites and within the podcasts.  They&#039;re trying to get &#039;TiVo&#039; in front of as many faces as possible to pump up the brand.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p><p>I agree that it would be better in the cloud.  I can understand TiVo&#8217;s reluctance to commit those kind of server and bandwidth resources to transcoding for a free service though.  Still, there are so many things that could be improved.  Put the RSS engine in the cloud.  Use XMPP to manage the downloads.  If the format is H.264 or WMV/VC-1 then HD TiVos can be told to pull it down directly, no PC required.  For other formats, and for Series2 users, it would message TiVo Desktop to tell it what to do.  This would remove all the RSS crap from TiVo Desktop and eliminate the utter stupidity of having to re-create all your subscriptions if you change PCs or even have to reinstall on the same PC.  All registering a new install would do would be to change which client gets the message.</p><p>As for the deals, that&#8217;s what I mean.  I think TiVo likes to be in control of what content gets on the box and negotiating the deals gets them promotional consideration on the other websites and within the podcasts.  They&#8217;re trying to get &#8216;TiVo&#8217; in front of as many faces as possible to pump up the brand.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Dave Zatz</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-26006</link> <dc:creator>Dave Zatz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:49:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-26006</guid> <description>Yeah, TiVo Desktop is a bastard child. I paid my money but never use it. Maybe we&#039;ll hear of some updates in Vegas this week, but who knows. Although I&#039;d like to see ALL of the &#039;web video&#039; stuff handled in &#039;the cloud&#039;, if not natively on the box. Regarding &#039;business deals&#039;, I don&#039;t think there are any. I think it&#039;s just cross promotional handshakes.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, TiVo Desktop is a bastard child. I paid my money but never use it. Maybe we&#8217;ll hear of some updates in Vegas this week, but who knows. Although I&#8217;d like to see ALL of the &#8216;web video&#8217; stuff handled in &#8216;the cloud&#8217;, if not natively on the box. Regarding &#8216;business deals&#8217;, I don&#8217;t think there are any. I think it&#8217;s just cross promotional handshakes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tim</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25992</link> <dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:13:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25992</guid> <description>All I used TiVo Desktop for was looking at photos, I don&#039;t use it at all and have un-installed it. I&#039;ll try pyTivo. Well, as soon as I run a Cat5 cable to the TiVo. Looks like my wireless adapter is bad. I could of bought a new one for $35, but went with 75&#039; of cable for $12 (free S&amp;H) I got off Ebay.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I used TiVo Desktop for was looking at photos, I don&#8217;t use it at all and have un-installed it. I&#8217;ll try pyTivo. Well, as soon as I run a Cat5 cable to the TiVo. Looks like my wireless adapter is bad. I could of bought a new one for $35, but went with 75&#8242; of cable for $12 (free S&amp;H) I got off Ebay.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25990</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 05:48:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25990</guid> <description>Thanks, Jason.I appreciate the tips.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jason.</p><p>I appreciate the tips.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25988</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:30:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25988</guid> <description>Bah! I forgot to add that DVDShrink will create a huge .vob file which is just an .mpg with another name. Rename it to whatever.mpg and you&#039;ve got your mpg.From there you&#039;ll have to hit up the PS3 forums for help on streaming to a PS3. I haven&#039;t a clue.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bah! I forgot to add that DVDShrink will create a huge .vob file which is just an .mpg with another name. Rename it to whatever.mpg and you&#8217;ve got your mpg.</p><p>From there you&#8217;ll have to hit up the PS3 forums for help on streaming to a PS3. I haven&#8217;t a clue.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25987</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 19:26:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25987</guid> <description>A few things I forgot to add, as far as the actual DVD ripping itself which it sounds like you&#039;re mainly interested in. I use DVDShrink (it&#039;s free, Google it), modify the settings to not split into 1 GB sections.Also, AnyDVD (not free)is a great little piece of software for getting around encryption. I&#039;m not advocating you use it to get stuff free (people need to get paid or they&#039;ll stop making content), but that doesn&#039;t mean we can&#039;t have that content in the format that suits our purposes.Lastly, if you want to convert to a smaller MP4 format, Divx is a great little piece of software for those who are new to the video conversion game. It&#039;ll cost you, but the time you spend trying to get the free options out there to work properly offsets the cost IMO.Best of luck....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few things I forgot to add, as far as the actual DVD ripping itself which it sounds like you&#8217;re mainly interested in. I use DVDShrink (it&#8217;s free, Google it), modify the settings to not split into 1 GB sections.</p><p>Also, AnyDVD (not free)is a great little piece of software for getting around encryption. I&#8217;m not advocating you use it to get stuff free (people need to get paid or they&#8217;ll stop making content), but that doesn&#8217;t mean we can&#8217;t have that content in the format that suits our purposes.</p><p>Lastly, if you want to convert to a smaller MP4 format, Divx is a great little piece of software for those who are new to the video conversion game. It&#8217;ll cost you, but the time you spend trying to get the free options out there to work properly offsets the cost IMO.</p><p>Best of luck&#8230;.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25986</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 18:50:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25986</guid> <description>Cool.  Thanks for the info.I&#039;ll give pyTiVo a try.  And compare that to the results I get on the PS3.  Perhaps one will be better than the other....?I&#039;m new to DVD ripping and encoding, so it&#039;s all a little overwhelming at this point.  But fun to learn about the new options out there.Thanks again for the response.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool.  Thanks for the info.</p><p>I&#8217;ll give pyTiVo a try.  And compare that to the results I get on the PS3.  Perhaps one will be better than the other&#8230;.?</p><p>I&#8217;m new to DVD ripping and encoding, so it&#8217;s all a little overwhelming at this point.  But fun to learn about the new options out there.</p><p>Thanks again for the response.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25985</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:46:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25985</guid> <description>Paul - Most folks are using pyTivo and compared to Desktop, IMO it works 100x better.I don&#039;t own a DVD player (that&#039;s hooked up to my TV) anymore so I rip what Netflix selections I can&#039;t stream to my home PC as an MPG then use pyTiVo to send it on up to the TiVo for viewing. After that I delete the MPG (seriously, why keep them around if you can just order them again if you like), rinse, repeat...TiVo should be paying the developers of pyTiVo. The amount of value they add to the TiVo experience is huge.Though I don&#039;t know what that will buy you for a PS3.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul &#8211; Most folks are using pyTivo and compared to Desktop, IMO it works 100x better.</p><p>I don&#8217;t own a DVD player (that&#8217;s hooked up to my TV) anymore so I rip what Netflix selections I can&#8217;t stream to my home PC as an MPG then use pyTiVo to send it on up to the TiVo for viewing. After that I delete the MPG (seriously, why keep them around if you can just order them again if you like), rinse, repeat&#8230;</p><p>TiVo should be paying the developers of pyTiVo. The amount of value they add to the TiVo experience is huge.</p><p>Though I don&#8217;t know what that will buy you for a PS3.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25984</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:13:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25984</guid> <description>What other options are there to share videos with the Tivo?  I&#039;m curious because I&#039;ve been looking at options for streaming to my PS3.Is it possible to burn non-copy protected DVDs to your PC and get them to play on the TiVo?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What other options are there to share videos with the Tivo?  I&#8217;m curious because I&#8217;ve been looking at options for streaming to my PS3.</p><p>Is it possible to burn non-copy protected DVDs to your PC and get them to play on the TiVo?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: brian</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25983</link> <dc:creator>brian</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:17:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25983</guid> <description>I have to agree on the Windows issues, but like Kyle I&#039;m also a Mac user and am still waiting for some of support similar to the free Windows version.  I gave up on the slowness and bugs in converting/transferring and have just settled for a PC with an HDMI port out.  Much easier to watch all of my videos in any format, and transfer the TiVo recordings and immediately transcode them to a much more efficient file format.Still, it would be nice if they wouldn&#039;t leave their personal computer users in the dust with all of the advancements they&#039;re making natively in the new units.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree on the Windows issues, but like Kyle I&#8217;m also a Mac user and am still waiting for some of support similar to the free Windows version.  I gave up on the slowness and bugs in converting/transferring and have just settled for a PC with an HDMI port out.  Much easier to watch all of my videos in any format, and transfer the TiVo recordings and immediately transcode them to a much more efficient file format.</p><p>Still, it would be nice if they wouldn&#8217;t leave their personal computer users in the dust with all of the advancements they&#8217;re making natively in the new units.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MegaZone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25981</link> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:28:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25981</guid> <description>Kyle - I agree, the support for Mac OS is certainly pitiful compared to Windows.  And given the issues on Windows that&#039;s not good at all.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle &#8211; I agree, the support for Mac OS is certainly pitiful compared to Windows.  And given the issues on Windows that&#8217;s not good at all.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25978</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:53:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25978</guid> <description>I&#039;ve fully given up on TiVo Desktop for some of the same reasons. My web videos only transferred for a short while then stop working, and then add to that the obscene amount of time it takes to transfer a single show to my hard drive and encode it for a device (in my case an iPhone). It is literally faster to BT my TV and convert than it is to transfer down from my TiVo.That might be the fault of the TiVo itself and not Desktop, but it doesn&#039;t really matter...Their whole TiVo -&gt; Desktop -&gt; TiVo experience is very sad indeed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve fully given up on TiVo Desktop for some of the same reasons. My web videos only transferred for a short while then stop working, and then add to that the obscene amount of time it takes to transfer a single show to my hard drive and encode it for a device (in my case an iPhone). It is literally faster to BT my TV and convert than it is to transfer down from my TiVo.</p><p>That might be the fault of the TiVo itself and not Desktop, but it doesn&#8217;t really matter&#8230;Their whole TiVo -&gt; Desktop -&gt; TiVo experience is very sad indeed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kyle Johnson</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2009/01/01/tivo-desktop-has-serious-bugs/comment-page-1/#comment-25976</link> <dc:creator>Kyle Johnson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 17:34:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/?p=3705#comment-25976</guid> <description>Hey, at least you have the feature.  If you really want to feel abandoned, try being a Mac user.  TiVo Desktop is still at version 1.9.x and only does the most basic music and photo sharing (and sort of video if you hold your tongue just right).  No TiVo Web Video, no download of content (unless you pay for third party software that just sort of works).  If it wasn&#039;t for opensource stuff like pyTiVo and iTiVo, I would still be stuck in the 1990&#039;s.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, at least you have the feature.  If you really want to feel abandoned, try being a Mac user.  TiVo Desktop is still at version 1.9.x and only does the most basic music and photo sharing (and sort of video if you hold your tongue just right).  No TiVo Web Video, no download of content (unless you pay for third party software that just sort of works).  If it wasn&#8217;t for opensource stuff like pyTiVo and iTiVo, I would still be stuck in the 1990&#8242;s.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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