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> <channel><title>Comments on: A Brief History Of Failed Video Media Formats</title> <atom:link href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/</link> <description>TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about...</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4</generator> <item><title>By: MegaZone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/comment-page-1/#comment-23200</link> <dc:creator>MegaZone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:21:01 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/#comment-23200</guid> <description>Ben - I take it you mean LaserDisc?  Or perhaps Betamax? ;-)Chris - I think the reason Betamax is considered a failure is because it fell so far short of its stated goal - to be *the* home video format.  It found a niche and sold enough players to cling to life for a long time (far more than HD DVD), but the niche it found was tiny, even negligible, compared to the sales of VHS decks.  And since it was engaged in a very public war for dominance, that looks like a failure to most.LaserDisc is similar - it found a very successful niche as a high-end format.  And it provided simply the best quality video for home use until the advent of DVD.  (And it was better than a lot of early DVDs - he says from experience.)  So I would be hesitant to call LD a real failure as well.  But the early pitch for LD aimed it at the general market, and it bombed there.  So that gets remembered and it is viewed as a failure.  In the same way most people look at MD as a failure, since it was launched a pre-recorded format and it utterly bombed in the non-Japanese world.  (I remember MD displays in my local Tower Records from around 1994-1995.)  Sony pulled MD back, then re-launched it as a highly portable, high-quality way to make your own mixes.  And it found a solid niche market that way, I know several people who own(ed) MiniDisc players.  Some even imported nicer units from Japan.  They&#039;d make tons of &#039;mixed-discs&#039; - just like people making mix-CDs, only MD was much smaller and a lot more portable.  I came close to buying one myself.  MD was only finally squeezed out when hard drive players, aka the iPod, really became affordable.  LD was similar, after the initial failure it was re-launched as a videophile format and it found a home there, and it lasted several years into the reign of DVD.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; I take it you mean LaserDisc?  Or perhaps Betamax? <img
src="http://www.gizmolovers.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?9d7bd4" alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>Chris &#8211; I think the reason Betamax is considered a failure is because it fell so far short of its stated goal &#8211; to be *the* home video format.  It found a niche and sold enough players to cling to life for a long time (far more than HD DVD), but the niche it found was tiny, even negligible, compared to the sales of VHS decks.  And since it was engaged in a very public war for dominance, that looks like a failure to most.</p><p>LaserDisc is similar &#8211; it found a very successful niche as a high-end format.  And it provided simply the best quality video for home use until the advent of DVD.  (And it was better than a lot of early DVDs &#8211; he says from experience.)  So I would be hesitant to call LD a real failure as well.  But the early pitch for LD aimed it at the general market, and it bombed there.  So that gets remembered and it is viewed as a failure.  In the same way most people look at MD as a failure, since it was launched a pre-recorded format and it utterly bombed in the non-Japanese world.  (I remember MD displays in my local Tower Records from around 1994-1995.)  Sony pulled MD back, then re-launched it as a highly portable, high-quality way to make your own mixes.  And it found a solid niche market that way, I know several people who own(ed) MiniDisc players.  Some even imported nicer units from Japan.  They&#8217;d make tons of &#8216;mixed-discs&#8217; &#8211; just like people making mix-CDs, only MD was much smaller and a lot more portable.  I came close to buying one myself.  MD was only finally squeezed out when hard drive players, aka the iPod, really became affordable.  LD was similar, after the initial failure it was re-launched as a videophile format and it found a home there, and it lasted several years into the reign of DVD.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris H.</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/comment-page-1/#comment-23196</link> <dc:creator>Chris H.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:55:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/#comment-23196</guid> <description>Well the list is kind of a weird mix of three types of things, IMO:(1) True flops.  In this category I would put Divx, CED, TED, and maybe Vcord, AVCO, EVR and CV-2000, though I confess I don&#039;t know that much about those latter ones.  (Wow, CED was awful.  A stylus-based video disc!  I used to rent one occasionally when I was in college.  The movies were all pan-and-scan, if you bumped the player the movie skipped, and when we made the mistake of renting, er, mature entertainment, we found it heavily censored...)(2) Formats that found a niche and were successful in that sense.  LaserDisc definitely belongs here; while it may never have quite made it in the mainstream, it was very popular amongst enthusiasts.  And though it wasn&#039;t on the list, I&#039;d put MD here -- it had its niche.  Perhaps also U-Matic, which was in very widespread use in professional circles for a very long time.(3) Formats that actually did fairly well for a long time and are now simply gone.  Betamax goes here.  Yes, it lost the war with VHS, but it took a very long time for Beta to disappear.  Sony didn&#039;t even start making VHS players until 1988, and even so kept manufacturing Beta machines for far longer.  It was not the quick victory of Blu-Ray v. HD-DVD, certainly.  Yes, it ultimately died, and it never achieved the success of VHS, but IMO it&#039;s not the same as LaserDisc (Beta was fairly widespread with the general public for quite a while), and certainly not the same as something like DIVX or CED.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the list is kind of a weird mix of three types of things, IMO:</p><p>(1) True flops.  In this category I would put Divx, CED, TED, and maybe Vcord, AVCO, EVR and CV-2000, though I confess I don&#8217;t know that much about those latter ones.  (Wow, CED was awful.  A stylus-based video disc!  I used to rent one occasionally when I was in college.  The movies were all pan-and-scan, if you bumped the player the movie skipped, and when we made the mistake of renting, er, mature entertainment, we found it heavily censored&#8230;)</p><p>(2) Formats that found a niche and were successful in that sense.  LaserDisc definitely belongs here; while it may never have quite made it in the mainstream, it was very popular amongst enthusiasts.  And though it wasn&#8217;t on the list, I&#8217;d put MD here &#8212; it had its niche.  Perhaps also U-Matic, which was in very widespread use in professional circles for a very long time.</p><p>(3) Formats that actually did fairly well for a long time and are now simply gone.  Betamax goes here.  Yes, it lost the war with VHS, but it took a very long time for Beta to disappear.  Sony didn&#8217;t even start making VHS players until 1988, and even so kept manufacturing Beta machines for far longer.  It was not the quick victory of Blu-Ray v. HD-DVD, certainly.  Yes, it ultimately died, and it never achieved the success of VHS, but IMO it&#8217;s not the same as LaserDisc (Beta was fairly widespread with the general public for quite a while), and certainly not the same as something like DIVX or CED.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ben Drawbaugh</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/comment-page-1/#comment-23195</link> <dc:creator>Ben Drawbaugh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 15:42:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/03/23/a-brief-history-of-failed-video-media-formats/#comment-23195</guid> <description>Interesting story, but I never understood how a format sold for 20 years and that was supported by every studio could be a failed format.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting story, but I never understood how a format sold for 20 years and that was supported by every studio could be a failed format.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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