Comments on: Blu-ray Player Information Resource http://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/ TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about... Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Ben Drawbaughhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22873 Ben Drawbaugh Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:39:08 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22873 See, you'd know this if you read my How to.www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/how-to-actually-use-dolby-truehd-and-dts-hd/;) See, you’d know this if you read my How to.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008/01/22/how-to-actually-use-dolby-truehd-and-dts-hd/

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]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22872 MegaZone Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:36:56 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22872 Hmm, I didn't realize that optical only did 2-channel PCM. I'll have to re-check my setup since it has been reporting surround, maybe I didn't set the PS3 to PCM. Well, another reason to upgrade my receiver to one that handles HDMI. :-) Hmm, I didn’t realize that optical only did 2-channel PCM. I’ll have to re-check my setup since it has been reporting surround, maybe I didn’t set the PS3 to PCM. Well, another reason to upgrade my receiver to one that handles HDMI. :-)

]]> By: Ben Drawbaughhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22871 Ben Drawbaugh Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:13:10 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22871 Right, Optical will carry 2 channel PCM, but not 5.1 channel PCM.If you had a BD-P1000, you could connect the 6 analog cables and listen to the losless audio with your old AV/R. With the PS3 you'd need a AV/R with HDMI. Right, Optical will carry 2 channel PCM, but not 5.1 channel PCM.

If you had a BD-P1000, you could connect the 6 analog cables and listen to the losless audio with your old AV/R. With the PS3 you’d need a AV/R with HDMI.

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22869 MegaZone Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:01:58 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22869 Optical carries PCM. My PS3 outputs over HDMI to my TV, which will bypass the audio over optical to the receiver. I can set the PS3 to decode and output PCM. Optical carries PCM. My PS3 outputs over HDMI to my TV, which will bypass the audio over optical to the receiver. I can set the PS3 to decode and output PCM.

]]> By: Ben Drawbaughhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22868 Ben Drawbaugh Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:24:37 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22868 "I could feed 5.1 in via analog, but that’s no advantage over feeding it over optical - and fewer cables is nice."Not true at all. If you use 5.1 analog cables you can take advantage of uncompressed audio, with optical you are stuck with the lower bitrate DD, or DTS. “I could feed 5.1 in via analog, but that’s no advantage over feeding it over optical – and fewer cables is nice.”

Not true at all. If you use 5.1 analog cables you can take advantage of uncompressed audio, with optical you are stuck with the lower bitrate DD, or DTS.

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22867 MegaZone Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:17:32 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22867 It really depends on personal preference and setup right now. My receiver is from 2002, it doesn't know TrueHD or DTS-HD at all, so bit streaming doesn't help. And it is only a 6.1 receiver (5.1 + rear center, no side speakers). It knows PCM though. Upgrading my receiver is probably my next step in my A/V system. With the growing number of HDMI devices, and more advanced codecs, my receiver is the weakest link now. It is a decent Pioneer unit, I forgot the model off-hand, but it is just too old for today's tech. I could feed 5.1 in via analog, but that's no advantage over feeding it over optical - and fewer cables is nice.Most people don't have setups that can really take advantage of TrueHD or DTS-HD HR/MA. If you don't have the receiver and speaker setup, and the room, to really take advantage of it, then it isn't going to be that useful to you.The good news is that later this year you won't have to make the choice. There will be a few players available with BD-Live support (or 'ready') *AND* TrueHD & DTS-HD HR/MA support in some form - either internal decoding or bitstreaming, or both. And that will probably continue to spread due to competitive forces as more vendors look to be 'checklist complete'. It really depends on personal preference and setup right now. My receiver is from 2002, it doesn’t know TrueHD or DTS-HD at all, so bit streaming doesn’t help. And it is only a 6.1 receiver (5.1 + rear center, no side speakers). It knows PCM though. Upgrading my receiver is probably my next step in my A/V system. With the growing number of HDMI devices, and more advanced codecs, my receiver is the weakest link now. It is a decent Pioneer unit, I forgot the model off-hand, but it is just too old for today’s tech. I could feed 5.1 in via analog, but that’s no advantage over feeding it over optical – and fewer cables is nice.

Most people don’t have setups that can really take advantage of TrueHD or DTS-HD HR/MA. If you don’t have the receiver and speaker setup, and the room, to really take advantage of it, then it isn’t going to be that useful to you.

The good news is that later this year you won’t have to make the choice. There will be a few players available with BD-Live support (or ‘ready’) *AND* TrueHD & DTS-HD HR/MA support in some form – either internal decoding or bitstreaming, or both. And that will probably continue to spread due to competitive forces as more vendors look to be ‘checklist complete’.

]]> By: Ben Drawbaughhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22866 Ben Drawbaugh Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:54:54 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22866 I hear what you're saying, but I see it as an interactivity vs audio decision.Personally I'd rather have the ability to bitstream TrueHD and DTS-HD then to have PIP and <i>maybe</i> even BDLive.My biggest beef with the PS3 right now is the IR situation and while it's easy enough to buy an inexpensive ugly usb ir receiver, the entire power on situation pushes me towards a stand-alone.I've had a BD-P1000 since day one and it still serves me well. Not one player that's been released yet has offered enough of an upgrade to tempt me.I have a BD-P1400 in for review right now and I have to say, for me it would be the best option right now, if I was in the market. In addition to the bitstream output the BD30 also offers, it'll also internally decode TrueHD and output it via discrete analog cables to my older Pioneer Elite AV/R. Internally decoding DTS-HD still isn't an option, and neither is Bonus View, but I'm not the directors commentary type.Either way, it's great to have so many options. I hear what you’re saying, but I see it as an interactivity vs audio decision.

Personally I’d rather have the ability to bitstream TrueHD and DTS-HD then to have PIP and maybe even BDLive.

My biggest beef with the PS3 right now is the IR situation and while it’s easy enough to buy an inexpensive ugly usb ir receiver, the entire power on situation pushes me towards a stand-alone.

I’ve had a BD-P1000 since day one and it still serves me well. Not one player that’s been released yet has offered enough of an upgrade to tempt me.

I have a BD-P1400 in for review right now and I have to say, for me it would be the best option right now, if I was in the market. In addition to the bitstream output the BD30 also offers, it’ll also internally decode TrueHD and output it via discrete analog cables to my older Pioneer Elite AV/R. Internally decoding DTS-HD still isn’t an option, and neither is Bonus View, but I’m not the directors commentary type.

Either way, it’s great to have so many options.

]]> By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22865 MegaZone Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:33:51 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22865 I posted about the 'idoblu' one a while back, but I don't think I'd seen the AVS Forum one before. Looking at all three they're probably best used together to provide a more complete picture.I still think the PS3 is probably the best BD player right now. I know, I know - unless you're a real audiophile who wants DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA, since the PS3 doesn't handle those and falls back to 'DTS Core'. But it is Profile 1.1 (Bonus View) today and will be upgraded to Profile 2.0 (BD-Live) this year. And it is possible for Sony to add internal decoding of DTS-HD HR/MA like they do for Dolby TrueHD, so there is some hope.Otherwise, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 is probably the best choice, but it is Profile 1.1. I wouldn't recommend a Profile 1.0 player at this point. And there are some Profile 2.0 players coming in a few months with DTS-HD HR/MA support that might be worth waiting for if you really want it. I posted about the ‘idoblu’ one a while back, but I don’t think I’d seen the AVS Forum one before. Looking at all three they’re probably best used together to provide a more complete picture.

I still think the PS3 is probably the best BD player right now. I know, I know – unless you’re a real audiophile who wants DTS-HD HR or DTS-HD MA, since the PS3 doesn’t handle those and falls back to ‘DTS Core’. But it is Profile 1.1 (Bonus View) today and will be upgraded to Profile 2.0 (BD-Live) this year. And it is possible for Sony to add internal decoding of DTS-HD HR/MA like they do for Dolby TrueHD, so there is some hope.

Otherwise, the Panasonic DMP-BD30 is probably the best choice, but it is Profile 1.1. I wouldn’t recommend a Profile 1.0 player at this point. And there are some Profile 2.0 players coming in a few months with DTS-HD HR/MA support that might be worth waiting for if you really want it.

]]> By: Ben Drawbaughhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/comment-page-1/#comment-22864 Ben Drawbaugh Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:00:08 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2008/02/26/blu-ray-player-information-resource/#comment-22864 That's a nice upgrade from what they had, but still really hard to find anything. I prefer this grid. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=980672Or this site. http://www.idoblu.co.uk/page2%20Blu-ray%20Players.html That’s a nice upgrade from what they had, but still really hard to find anything. I prefer this grid.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=980672

Or this site.
http://www.idoblu.co.uk/page2%20Blu-ray%20Players.html

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