Comments on: EchoStar Is Dead, Long Live EchoStar! http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/12/07/echostar-is-dead-long-live-echostar/ TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about... Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: MegaZonehttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/12/07/echostar-is-dead-long-live-echostar/comment-page-1/#comment-21816 MegaZone Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:06:49 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/12/07/echostar-is-dead-long-live-echostar/#comment-21816 I'm sure the split isn't related to the lawsuit. It makes sense for them to do this to be able to grow their hardware business, which they're definitely interested in doing - hence the acquisition of Sling Media. They want to be able to market their hardware, and underlaying technologies, to other companies - but that's hard when there is a perceived conflict of buying from a competitor. Sling Media, for example, already works with DirecTV on some online offerings. Would DirecTV want to continue working with Sling if they perceived it as paying DISH Network?As for the lawsuit - I'm no lawyer, but I'd think it would be both groups. The hardware group for building the infringing hardware, and the DISH group for deploying them to customers. If it were just one group, it'd be the hardware group, but that could still spill over as if the hardware is found to be infringing it could be ordered disabled. I’m sure the split isn’t related to the lawsuit. It makes sense for them to do this to be able to grow their hardware business, which they’re definitely interested in doing – hence the acquisition of Sling Media. They want to be able to market their hardware, and underlaying technologies, to other companies – but that’s hard when there is a perceived conflict of buying from a competitor. Sling Media, for example, already works with DirecTV on some online offerings. Would DirecTV want to continue working with Sling if they perceived it as paying DISH Network?

As for the lawsuit – I’m no lawyer, but I’d think it would be both groups. The hardware group for building the infringing hardware, and the DISH group for deploying them to customers. If it were just one group, it’d be the hardware group, but that could still spill over as if the hardware is found to be infringing it could be ordered disabled.

]]> By: Legal Grinchhttp://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/12/07/echostar-is-dead-long-live-echostar/comment-page-1/#comment-21812 Legal Grinch Sat, 08 Dec 2007 19:19:03 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/12/07/echostar-is-dead-long-live-echostar/#comment-21812 Ok, so which of the two companies is / will be involved in a lawsuit with TiVo? Both? How does this reorganization affect that lawsuit? Does anyone know how these kinds of things work?This kind of reminds me of the networks' (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox) Distant Network Channels lawsuit against Echostar that started in 1998. If I remember correctly, at one point last December, after the injunction against transmitting distant networks was upheld, Echostar re-offered the distant network channels to their customers via some deal through another company (NPS or AllAmericaDirect.com maybe?) I don't remember if that company was an Echostar spin out or if they were just a different company that also offered distant network access. I do remember that the networks weren't happy at all. After winning their lawsuit and fighting appeal after appeal for 5+ years, they probably thought they were done when the Dec. 1, 2006 ruling came down. Instead, E* just found a way to retransmit the content using another company. The networks responded with a cease and desist order, calling the "new" service a sham.Something about the timing of this E* split and TiVo lawsuit just seems to remind me of that distant networks lawsuit business from last year... Ok, so which of the two companies is / will be involved in a lawsuit with TiVo? Both? How does this reorganization affect that lawsuit? Does anyone know how these kinds of things work?

This kind of reminds me of the networks’ (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox) Distant Network Channels lawsuit against Echostar that started in 1998. If I remember correctly, at one point last December, after the injunction against transmitting distant networks was upheld, Echostar re-offered the distant network channels to their customers via some deal through another company (NPS or AllAmericaDirect.com maybe?) I don’t remember if that company was an Echostar spin out or if they were just a different company that also offered distant network access. I do remember that the networks weren’t happy at all. After winning their lawsuit and fighting appeal after appeal for 5+ years, they probably thought they were done when the Dec. 1, 2006 ruling came down. Instead, E* just found a way to retransmit the content using another company. The networks responded with a cease and desist order, calling the “new” service a sham.

Something about the timing of this E* split and TiVo lawsuit just seems to remind me of that distant networks lawsuit business from last year…

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