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> <channel><title>Comments on: Australians to get high-def TiVo &#8211; but no ad skipping</title> <atom:link href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/</link> <description>TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about...</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4</generator> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/comment-page-1/#comment-21636</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 11:00:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/#comment-21636</guid> <description>I know this is kind of late, but anyway...There are other PVR options in Australia, have been for years, it&#039;s all just standard DVB-T here.  Nothing as polished as TiVo but ad-skipping functions are pretty much the norm.  My Topfield TF5000PVRt, for example, does a 3-minute skip, a 30-second skip, and a 10-second reverse-skip.EPG has been available for a long time too, you&#039;ve just had to go to a third party (e.g., IceTV) to get it.  What&#039;s new is the networks broadcasting more than now/next.As to what they&#039;ll be disabling, I&#039;d assume any sort of skip function will be out. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/networks-want-to-nobble-adskipping/2007/11/19/1195321672583.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This &lt;/a&gt; cites x60 as the limit the networks are willing to accept.We want to replace our aging Topfield but will wait and see just how badly Seven hobbles TiVo before we do anything.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is kind of late, but anyway&#8230;</p><p>There are other PVR options in Australia, have been for years, it&#8217;s all just standard DVB-T here.  Nothing as polished as TiVo but ad-skipping functions are pretty much the norm.  My Topfield TF5000PVRt, for example, does a 3-minute skip, a 30-second skip, and a 10-second reverse-skip.</p><p>EPG has been available for a long time too, you&#8217;ve just had to go to a third party (e.g., IceTV) to get it.  What&#8217;s new is the networks broadcasting more than now/next.</p><p>As to what they&#8217;ll be disabling, I&#8217;d assume any sort of skip function will be out. <a
href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/technology/networks-want-to-nobble-adskipping/2007/11/19/1195321672583.html" rel="nofollow">This </a> cites x60 as the limit the networks are willing to accept.</p><p>We want to replace our aging Topfield but will wait and see just how badly Seven hobbles TiVo before we do anything.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HDTiVo</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/comment-page-1/#comment-10889</link> <dc:creator>HDTiVo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:33:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/#comment-10889</guid> <description>That&#039;s about right as to the importance of the 30s skip and FF.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s about right as to the importance of the 30s skip and FF.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: megazone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/comment-page-1/#comment-10620</link> <dc:creator>megazone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:29:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/#comment-10620</guid> <description>If they really messed with FF I think that would be an issue, but 30-second skip not so much.  Keep in mind this is a market without real competition.  Right now the Foxtel iQ is the main DVR platform available - and only to Foxtel subscribers.  I&#039;m not sure if that box has any 30-second-skip-like feature, but I haven&#039;t heard of any.  There are some other 3rd party boxes planning to enter the market now that guide data is available, but they don&#039;t have the backing TiVo does from Seven, Engin, and Yahoo! Australia - let alone the TiVo brand.Even in the US, many - I believe most - TiVo users don&#039;t even know about the 30ss code.  Regularly I get someone asking what it is when I mention it online.  It isn&#039;t in any of the documentation or official materials, and the vast majority of users aren&#039;t active in the online forums to learn it.  People don&#039;t miss what they don&#039;t know they could&#039;ve had - and most, nearly all, of the consumers in the Australian market aren&#039;t expecting 30ss.And if the competition starts adding features like that - TiVo can always add it in an update.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they really messed with FF I think that would be an issue, but 30-second skip not so much.  Keep in mind this is a market without real competition.  Right now the Foxtel iQ is the main DVR platform available &#8211; and only to Foxtel subscribers.  I&#8217;m not sure if that box has any 30-second-skip-like feature, but I haven&#8217;t heard of any.  There are some other 3rd party boxes planning to enter the market now that guide data is available, but they don&#8217;t have the backing TiVo does from Seven, Engin, and Yahoo! Australia &#8211; let alone the TiVo brand.</p><p>Even in the US, many &#8211; I believe most &#8211; TiVo users don&#8217;t even know about the 30ss code.  Regularly I get someone asking what it is when I mention it online.  It isn&#8217;t in any of the documentation or official materials, and the vast majority of users aren&#8217;t active in the online forums to learn it.  People don&#8217;t miss what they don&#8217;t know they could&#8217;ve had &#8211; and most, nearly all, of the consumers in the Australian market aren&#8217;t expecting 30ss.</p><p>And if the competition starts adding features like that &#8211; TiVo can always add it in an update.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: HDTiVo</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/comment-page-1/#comment-10551</link> <dc:creator>HDTiVo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:06:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/09/12/australians-to-get-high-def-tivo-but-no-ad-skipping/#comment-10551</guid> <description>If the quote is accurate, he specifically refers to US abilities that won&#039;t be in Australia, so I&#039;d interpret that as 30-sec skip and maybe... some way to limit to 1FF (ie. about 3x) ????On the other hand, its a marketing guy, so he might just not have any idea what he&#039;s talking about. ;)I don&#039;t see much chance for significant sales or revenue to TiVo out of this. Monkeying with FF/30sec skip can only hurt.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the quote is accurate, he specifically refers to US abilities that won&#8217;t be in Australia, so I&#8217;d interpret that as 30-sec skip and maybe&#8230; some way to limit to 1FF (ie. about 3x) ????</p><p>On the other hand, its a marketing guy, so he might just not have any idea what he&#8217;s talking about. <img
src="http://www.gizmolovers.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif?9d7bd4" alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p><p>I don&#8217;t see much chance for significant sales or revenue to TiVo out of this. Monkeying with FF/30sec skip can only hurt.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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