Comments on: Mr. TiVo goes to Washington http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/ TiVo, Slingbox, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever tech I feel like blogging about... Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:48:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dlcrow http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2301 dlcrow Wed, 16 May 2007 17:24:40 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2301 I'm an S3 owner in the Austin, TX market served by Time Warner. They are rolling out SDV very heavily here. Right now I get very few channels on my S3 with CableCARD. Since the HD locals are unencrypted QAM and are mapped appropriately to match the TiVo guide data, the only real reason I keep my CableCARDs installed is for the off chance that I want to record something on 5 or so encrypted HD channels. TWC has stated (and are following through) that all new HD channels will be SDV. I record all SD content on my S2's (some are analog cable only with a direct cable connection and others are driving a digital cable box). That way I can use MRV and TTG and don't have to worry about SDV. I've ended up with a pretty expensive upgraded S3 box being used for recording shows almost exclusively on the HD locals. I’m an S3 owner in the Austin, TX market served by Time Warner. They are rolling out SDV very heavily here.

Right now I get very few channels on my S3 with CableCARD. Since the HD locals are unencrypted QAM and are mapped appropriately to match the TiVo guide data, the only real reason I keep my CableCARDs installed is for the off chance that I want to record something on 5 or so encrypted HD channels. TWC has stated (and are following through) that all new HD channels will be SDV.

I record all SD content on my S2’s (some are analog cable only with a direct cable connection and others are driving a digital cable box). That way I can use MRV and TTG and don’t have to worry about SDV.

I’ve ended up with a pretty expensive upgraded S3 box being used for recording shows almost exclusively on the HD locals.

]]> By: vincea http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2300 vincea Fri, 11 May 2007 09:06:18 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2300 Cablevision is also using SDV. I think CV is the fifth or sixth largest MSO. Right now it's limited to channels in their international packages so it wouldn't really affect me when I get an S3 but they (CV) haven't commented on further use of SDV. Cablevision is also using SDV. I think CV is the fifth or sixth largest MSO. Right now it’s limited to channels in their international packages so it wouldn’t really affect me when I get an S3 but they (CV) haven’t commented on further use of SDV.

]]> By: megazone http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2299 megazone Fri, 11 May 2007 07:23:37 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2299 Satellite *could* use CableCARD for decryption. It is really just a decryption token, it has nothing to do with the source of the signal. That doesn't mean a standard CableCARD device could handle satellite, the tuners are different. You'd need a box with integrated satellite tuners. The FCC could mandate it, but they haven't been willing to do that to date. Dish Network and DirecTV are still closed systems with total control over who can build receivers. Neither is generally allowing 3rd parties, like TiVo, to produce tuners. Satellite *could* use CableCARD for decryption. It is really just a decryption token, it has nothing to do with the source of the signal. That doesn’t mean a standard CableCARD device could handle satellite, the tuners are different. You’d need a box with integrated satellite tuners.

The FCC could mandate it, but they haven’t been willing to do that to date. Dish Network and DirecTV are still closed systems with total control over who can build receivers. Neither is generally allowing 3rd parties, like TiVo, to produce tuners.

]]> By: megazone http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2298 megazone Fri, 11 May 2007 07:19:37 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2298 Well, the S3 supports antenna and cable, so I think antenna is safe. As for satellite, or people who still want to use a cable box for some reason, who knows how long the S2DT will remain in production. And there is no reason they can't produce a box with CableCARD *and* A/V inputs. Well, the S3 supports antenna and cable, so I think antenna is safe. As for satellite, or people who still want to use a cable box for some reason, who knows how long the S2DT will remain in production. And there is no reason they can’t produce a box with CableCARD *and* A/V inputs.

]]> By: maeglin73 http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2297 maeglin73 Thu, 10 May 2007 23:52:04 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2297 No, I'm saying that TiVo might have supported directly tuning satellite if they could... instead, the satellite providers stood in the way of that (DirecTV specifically, I think). No, I’m saying that TiVo might have supported directly tuning satellite if they could… instead, the satellite providers stood in the way of that (DirecTV specifically, I think).

]]> By: mhaithaca http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2296 mhaithaca Thu, 10 May 2007 23:49:43 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2296 I'm talking satellite; there's no OTA television here. Are you saying the satellite providers could support CableCard if they wanted to? If so, why wouldn't the FCC mandate it for them as well as for the cable providers? I’m talking satellite; there’s no OTA television here. Are you saying the satellite providers could support CableCard if they wanted to? If so, why wouldn’t the FCC mandate it for them as well as for the cable providers?

]]> By: maeglin73 http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2295 maeglin73 Thu, 10 May 2007 23:44:11 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2295 The S3 is CableCard-based, and it works with OTA. If you're talking satellite, well, you're blaming the wrong party there. Blame the satellite providers. The S3 is CableCard-based, and it works with OTA. If you’re talking satellite, well, you’re blaming the wrong party there. Blame the satellite providers.

]]> By: mhaithaca http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2294 mhaithaca Thu, 10 May 2007 23:40:22 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2294 Gah. Did Rogers just announce they are dropping all support for anyone who gets their TV any way OTHER than cable? Gah. Did Rogers just announce they are dropping all support for anyone who gets their TV any way OTHER than cable?

]]> By: maeglin73 http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/comment-page-1/#comment-2293 maeglin73 Thu, 10 May 2007 23:36:33 +0000 http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/05/10/mr-tivo-goes-to-washington/#comment-2293 If those words turn into reality, I'll be a little less pissed about the fact that Comcast managed to bribe our uninformed HOA into giving them exclusive access for the next 10 years. If those words turn into reality, I’ll be a little less pissed about the fact that Comcast managed to bribe our uninformed HOA into giving them exclusive access for the next 10 years.

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