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> <channel><title>Comments on: DirecTV effectively snubs TiVo users &#8211; again</title> <atom:link href="http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/</link> <description>TiVo, Slingbox, Android, Blu-ray Disc, and whatever other tech I feel like blogging about...</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 20:50:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4</generator> <item><title>By: megazone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-4861</link> <dc:creator>megazone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-4861</guid> <description>1. The vast majority DirecTV subscribers are still SD, and DTV will not be migrating SD to MPEG4.  All existing SD receivers, including DirecTiVos, will continue to work for the foreseeable future.  The HR10-250 HD DirecTiVo will not be able to receive the new MPEG4 HD channels.2. This is totally incorrect.  DirecTV and TiVo extended their relationship out into 2010 and just announced plans to distribute a software update to DirecTiVos in early 2008, giving them some of the features currently on the standalone boxes such as online scheduling, Recently Deleted, and Overlap Protection.3. This is also totally incorrect.  There are no ongoing efforts to merge DirecTV and Dish Network.  Also, Rupert Murdoch/News Corp is selling their interest in DirecTV to Liberty Media, with the deal scheduled to close later this year.  Rupert/News Corp will be completely out of DirecTV.  Additionally, Liberty Media is a major corporate investor in TiVo and there have already been comments about a possible reconciliation under their control.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. The vast majority DirecTV subscribers are still SD, and DTV will not be migrating SD to MPEG4.  All existing SD receivers, including DirecTiVos, will continue to work for the foreseeable future.  The HR10-250 HD DirecTiVo will not be able to receive the new MPEG4 HD channels.</p><p>2. This is totally incorrect.  DirecTV and TiVo extended their relationship out into 2010 and just announced plans to distribute a software update to DirecTiVos in early 2008, giving them some of the features currently on the standalone boxes such as online scheduling, Recently Deleted, and Overlap Protection.</p><p>3. This is also totally incorrect.  There are no ongoing efforts to merge DirecTV and Dish Network.  Also, Rupert Murdoch/News Corp is selling their interest in DirecTV to Liberty Media, with the deal scheduled to close later this year.  Rupert/News Corp will be completely out of DirecTV.  Additionally, Liberty Media is a major corporate investor in TiVo and there have already been comments about a possible reconciliation under their control.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Brian A</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-4860</link> <dc:creator>Brian A</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:52:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-4860</guid> <description>The thing most of you people don&#039;t realize is that Directv no longer supports TiVo because:1) TiVo will soon be defunct because of the onslaught of HD (all of which will be MPEG 4 by the end of 2009 for all
cable and satellite carriers)
2) Directv and TiVo have split ways and no longer do business together.  No Directv unit ill ever be manufactured
with the TiVo operating systme/interface/hardware again .  Directv and TiVo did not split amicably.  This is public
knowledge.  Look it up.
3) Rupert Murdoch, major shareholder for Directv has announced that he is still in negotiations to merge Directv
and Dish Network (Also public record).Since TiVo will not be able to support HD local channels, unless they spend some seious money to upgrade all their
systems, you might as well get used to the fact that Directv will corner the market on HD programming and DVR
services.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing most of you people don&#8217;t realize is that Directv no longer supports TiVo because:</p><p>1) TiVo will soon be defunct because of the onslaught of HD (all of which will be MPEG 4 by the end of 2009 for all<br
/> cable and satellite carriers)<br
/> 2) Directv and TiVo have split ways and no longer do business together.  No Directv unit ill ever be manufactured<br
/> with the TiVo operating systme/interface/hardware again .  Directv and TiVo did not split amicably.  This is public<br
/> knowledge.  Look it up.<br
/> 3) Rupert Murdoch, major shareholder for Directv has announced that he is still in negotiations to merge Directv<br
/> and Dish Network (Also public record).</p><p>Since TiVo will not be able to support HD local channels, unless they spend some seious money to upgrade all their<br
/> systems, you might as well get used to the fact that Directv will corner the market on HD programming and DVR<br
/> services.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: megazone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1978</link> <dc:creator>megazone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:48:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1978</guid> <description>You can still find the DirecTV R10 which is their last TiVo-based SD model.  It works fine since they&#039;re not making any changes to their SD programming.  The R15 is the NDS-based replacement for that.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can still find the DirecTV R10 which is their last TiVo-based SD model.  It works fine since they&#8217;re not making any changes to their SD programming.  The R15 is the NDS-based replacement for that.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anonymous</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1977</link> <dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:59:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1977</guid> <description>I need to replace my HDVR2. I haven&#039;t upgraded to HD yet. So what is a Directv TIVO replacement for the HDVR2?
Thanks</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I need to replace my HDVR2. I haven&#8217;t upgraded to HD yet. So what is a Directv TIVO replacement for the HDVR2?<br
/> Thanks</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: megazone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1976</link> <dc:creator>megazone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:59:19 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1976</guid> <description>Well, as the other comment said, DirecTV has some exclusive deals for sports that makes them the only option for that content.There are also those who live in areas where digital cable is not available, or sometimes any cable at all, so satellite is their only option for many channels - which means DirecTV or Dish Network.  Each offering has their own pluses and minuses.  Some people have had bad experiences with cable, so they  choose satellite instead.Personally I think satellite is less and less of a good deal as time goes on.  Most people want broadband Internet access, and cable bundles tend to offer a better value.  My cable service has been extremely reliable for as long as I can recall, my power goes out far more than my cable - I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve had a cable outage in years.  So arguments about better service just don&#039;t hold water for me.  (I&#039;m sure some people have terrible cable service.)  With HD, satellite tends to compress more than cable due to transponder restrictions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as the other comment said, DirecTV has some exclusive deals for sports that makes them the only option for that content.</p><p>There are also those who live in areas where digital cable is not available, or sometimes any cable at all, so satellite is their only option for many channels &#8211; which means DirecTV or Dish Network.  Each offering has their own pluses and minuses.  Some people have had bad experiences with cable, so they  choose satellite instead.</p><p>Personally I think satellite is less and less of a good deal as time goes on.  Most people want broadband Internet access, and cable bundles tend to offer a better value.  My cable service has been extremely reliable for as long as I can recall, my power goes out far more than my cable &#8211; I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve had a cable outage in years.  So arguments about better service just don&#8217;t hold water for me.  (I&#8217;m sure some people have terrible cable service.)  With HD, satellite tends to compress more than cable due to transponder restrictions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anonymous</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1975</link> <dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:39:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1975</guid> <description>Why do I deal with DirectTV?  I don&#039;t have a choice.  Probably %80 of my TV watching is sports.  I want the NFL season ticket, the Superfan which gives me the games in HD, and I want MLB Extra Innings.  DirecTV is the only place I can get those things.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do I deal with DirectTV?  I don&#8217;t have a choice.  Probably %80 of my TV watching is sports.  I want the NFL season ticket, the Superfan which gives me the games in HD, and I want MLB Extra Innings.  DirecTV is the only place I can get those things.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: severoon</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1974</link> <dc:creator>severoon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:24:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1974</guid> <description>I don&#039;t get it...why do people buy DirecTV if it&#039;s a well known fact that they&#039;re actually spending revenue&#8212;which is your hard-earned dollars&#8212;to punish you for choosing to give them your business?Are the benefits of DirecTV somehow more important than the message you send to their business that treating customers this way is ok?It&#039;s one thing if it took work to make the features available and they didn&#039;t have the budget or something...but they&#039;re actually spending money to cripple the box? When I find out something like that is going on, I get angry and withhold my business. Anyone out there in LJ land care to give me some insight as to why people would be willing participants in such an abuse of the business-customer relationship?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t get it&#8230;why do people buy DirecTV if it&#8217;s a well known fact that they&#8217;re actually spending revenue&mdash;which is your hard-earned dollars&mdash;to punish you for choosing to give them your business?</p><p>Are the benefits of DirecTV somehow more important than the message you send to their business that treating customers this way is ok?</p><p>It&#8217;s one thing if it took work to make the features available and they didn&#8217;t have the budget or something&#8230;but they&#8217;re actually spending money to cripple the box? When I find out something like that is going on, I get angry and withhold my business. Anyone out there in LJ land care to give me some insight as to why people would be willing participants in such an abuse of the business-customer relationship?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: plaidomatic</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1973</link> <dc:creator>plaidomatic</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 05:18:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1973</guid> <description>Many users report that Viiv is not necessary (and lets face, it the DVR+ is not likely to be able to tell the difference), you only need to have WMP11 installed.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many users report that Viiv is not necessary (and lets face, it the DVR+ is not likely to be able to tell the difference), you only need to have WMP11 installed.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: megazone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1972</link> <dc:creator>megazone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 12 Jan 2007 01:58:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1972</guid> <description>There is only one model that is HD, TiVo, and integrated - the HR10-250.  However, it will not handle the new MPEG4 HD channels DirecTV is rolling out.The only box that is integrated, HD, and handle HPEG4 is the HR20 - but that&#039;s not TiVo-based.You can&#039;t get it all in one box.For standard definition the R10 is the last TiVo-based box, it is being replaced by the R15 which is NOT TiVo-based.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one model that is HD, TiVo, and integrated &#8211; the HR10-250.  However, it will not handle the new MPEG4 HD channels DirecTV is rolling out.</p><p>The only box that is integrated, HD, and handle HPEG4 is the HR20 &#8211; but that&#8217;s not TiVo-based.</p><p>You can&#8217;t get it all in one box.</p><p>For standard definition the R10 is the last TiVo-based box, it is being replaced by the R15 which is NOT TiVo-based.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anonymous</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1971</link> <dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:53:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1971</guid> <description>Need help guys/gals.I need to buy a Tivo for my motorhome.  I love TIVO and don&#039;t even have one yet.  I&#039;m changing my front TV out for a HiDef unit, and am very confused by the latest TIVO models -- it looks like a lot of them won&#039;t even handle DirecTV.  Here&#039;s what I need:
1.  I&#039;d like to have the DirecTV receiver built in to the TIVO unit to save space.
2.  High Definition TIVO for sure.
3.  I don&#039;t want it to be obsolete in a year or two, what with all the rumors about some units being obsolete (cf. MPEG4) when there&#039;s supposedly this big conversion on DirecTV that Tivo won&#039;t handle.
4.  Obviously, in the motorhome it won&#039;t be contiually hooked up to a land line, except when it&#039;s first hooked up.
5.  I just need a model number recommendation from one of you knowledgable folks.  I don&#039;t even care if it&#039;s a year old unit that I&#039;ll have to buy on Ebay.
You assitance and advice will be much appreciated.OBTW, while you&#039;re at it, TIVO my boy Saturday night.  The Shins will be on Saturday Night Live.  Huge for a band from small town Albuquerque!Thanks for any help you can give.Jim Mercer</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need help guys/gals.</p><p>I need to buy a Tivo for my motorhome.  I love TIVO and don&#8217;t even have one yet.  I&#8217;m changing my front TV out for a HiDef unit, and am very confused by the latest TIVO models &#8212; it looks like a lot of them won&#8217;t even handle DirecTV.  Here&#8217;s what I need:<br
/> 1.  I&#8217;d like to have the DirecTV receiver built in to the TIVO unit to save space.<br
/> 2.  High Definition TIVO for sure.<br
/> 3.  I don&#8217;t want it to be obsolete in a year or two, what with all the rumors about some units being obsolete (cf. MPEG4) when there&#8217;s supposedly this big conversion on DirecTV that Tivo won&#8217;t handle.<br
/> 4.  Obviously, in the motorhome it won&#8217;t be contiually hooked up to a land line, except when it&#8217;s first hooked up.<br
/> 5.  I just need a model number recommendation from one of you knowledgable folks.  I don&#8217;t even care if it&#8217;s a year old unit that I&#8217;ll have to buy on Ebay.<br
/> You assitance and advice will be much appreciated.</p><p>OBTW, while you&#8217;re at it, TIVO my boy Saturday night.  The Shins will be on Saturday Night Live.  Huge for a band from small town Albuquerque!</p><p>Thanks for any help you can give.</p><p>Jim Mercer</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: buran</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1970</link> <dc:creator>buran</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:47:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1970</guid> <description>Another reason to push for a switch from DirecTV to Comcast once I moveâ€¦</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another reason to push for a switch from DirecTV to Comcast once I moveâ€¦</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: shadoh</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1969</link> <dc:creator>shadoh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 19:04:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1969</guid> <description>As a DirecTiVo user, I share your long shot hope.  Unfortunately, I find that extremely unlikely.  It looks like the TiVo/DirecTV relationship is a complex and hidden relationship.  Just look at how poorly DirecTV is handling the current (major) issues DirecTiVo users are currently suffering.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a DirecTiVo user, I share your long shot hope.  Unfortunately, I find that extremely unlikely.  It looks like the TiVo/DirecTV relationship is a complex and hidden relationship.  Just look at how poorly DirecTV is handling the current (major) issues DirecTiVo users are currently suffering.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: megazone</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1968</link> <dc:creator>megazone</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1968</guid> <description>You can use a standalone Series2 TiVo with an external cable receiver to get kind of the best of both worlds.  But you won&#039;t get dual-tuners, which most satellite DVRs have, or HD.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use a standalone Series2 TiVo with an external cable receiver to get kind of the best of both worlds.  But you won&#8217;t get dual-tuners, which most satellite DVRs have, or HD.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: chancelot</title><link>http://www.gizmolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1967</link> <dc:creator>chancelot</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:25:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.tivolovers.com/2007/01/11/directv-effectively-snubs-tivo-users-again/#comment-1967</guid> <description>yeah, I was shocked when I got a stand-alone TiVo after disconnecting my DirecTiVo for cable.  We&#039;re going back to satellite in the next few months, so I hope Liberty can bring DTV back to the light!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, I was shocked when I got a stand-alone TiVo after disconnecting my DirecTiVo for cable.  We&#8217;re going back to satellite in the next few months, so I hope Liberty can bring DTV back to the light!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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